Re-supply for marines in Combat Options

[Gruuunt]

Have been watching a few games, and it seems that the 'rines are spending too much time turning back when out of ammo at a hive.

I cant remember, but I have a feeling they used to try and knife it if out of ammo previously, but I dont see them doing that now.

Anyway back on track, if they took resupply as an upgrade earlier, I think they would survive longer?

[Cheeseh]

re-supply upgrade is not on their list atm, thats why they dont upgrade it. What impulse is it? more importantly.. and how can you tell if you already have the upgrade?

[Gruuunt]

Good question as to impulse, will have a mooch on the NS forums!

The upgrade I think becomes unavailable after selecting, I will check it out for you - move over Bots, Gruuunt coming thru...

[LordSkitch]

A guy who frequents my server says he has a list of all the impulses, once I see him again, I'll get the list

[Cheeseh]

I can proabbly make a good guessat what it is, but more improtant is how to know if a bot already has it, so it doesn't keep trying to get the upgrade, even if it already has it. Probably some deep NS coding stuff there, I dunno if anyones made any web pages with that stuff

[LordSkitch]

Could you give each bot class a combat bitfield, and have all the upgrades theyve gotten put into this bitfield, so you know like..


damage 1 = 1
damage 2 = 2
damage 3 = 4
shotgun = 8
GL = 16
HMG = 32

etc
then when they decide on an upgrade, have it in a switch so its somethin like

[Cheeseh]

I've already done that and had that for the past few beta versions.

But the thing is there is no way to tell that the impulse was successful, so doing things manually doesn't always work.

[LordSkitch]

ohhh yeah huh...
<--- moron


Oh! Could you make like a function to add an impulse so its like..

[Cheeseh]

hmm I guess. It's still a bit of a manual type check though I am sure there is something held in the iuser4 bitmask, but not sure what would be set for "resupply" upgrade.

[LordSkitch]

I dunno what the hell a iuser4 bitmask is, but can you have the bots tell you their iuser4 bitmasks before and after the upgrade, then use that to determine what it is you're after?

[Gruuunt]

Found this info on the NS Forums, if its useful to start with Cheeseh:

NS 3.0 has introduced some new impulses as well as chaining some of the existing ones. So here is a full list of new impulse commands for you to bind:

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Marine Voice chats

Pressing these when playing as aliens will also make sounds too.

MARINES

Awaiting Orders (you can do this one in your controls settings)
In position impulse 12
Roger that (do this one in controls)
Im covering you impulse 8
Alien spotted impulse 13
Move out impulse 14
Follow me impulse 7
Area clear impulse 15
Need health impulse 10
Need ammo impulse 11
taunt impulse 9

NS MARINES COMBAT UPGRADES
Damage 1 impulse 23
Damage 2 impulse 24
Damage 3 impulse 25
Shotgun impulse 64
HMG impulse 65
Grenade launcher impulse 66
CatPacks impulse 27
Resupply impulse 31
Scanner sweep impulse 53
Motion Tracking impulse 33
Mines impulse 61
Hand grenade impulse 37
Welder impulse 62
Armour 1 impulse 20
Armour 2 impulse21
Armour 3 impulse22
HA impulse38
Jet pack impulse39


ALIENS GESTATION
Skulk impulse 113
Gorge impulse114
Lerk impulse15
Fade impulse 116
Onos impulse117

ALIEN UPGRADES
MOVEMENT
Silence impulse 107
Celerity impulse 108
Adrenaline impulse 109

DEFENSE
Redemption impulse 101
Regen impulse102
Cara impulse 103

SENSE
Scent of Fear impulse 110
Focus impulse 111
Cloaking impulse 112

OTHER
Second Hive Ability "impulse 118"
Third Hive Ability "Impulse 126"

[LordSkitch]

Deeeeeamn, thats printed, and stuck on my wall now.

[LordSkitch]

So Cheesehpooh, what pray tell is an iuser4 bitmask?

[Cheeseh]

Can I ask how Resupply upgrade works?

Do you just get the upgrade once? And then you occasionally get ammo ?

Or do you have to keep getting the upgrade to get ammo?

I am unsure because I implemented it in my bot but sometimes my bots would, I think, just keep using the resupply upgrade, because they weren't shooting but they kept getting reupply. I'm not sure if thery were trying to get the upgrade though...

just tell me how it works !!

[link2002]

when you have uhh... a think when you have 1/2 of your ammo it automaticaly gave you ammo, and when you have less than 100 health and you dont need ammo it gave you health, automaticaly, nothing is manual.

[LordSkitch]

Yeah, its all automatic, if you need health, it'll give it to you like once every 5 seconds or something, and if youre fully healed, and you don't have a spare full clip, itll give you one. Otherwise it just sits waiting for you to get hurt or shoot stuff

[zodiac]

I do see resupply act the way you guys have it here but the way and I do not understand how it determines when to give you this but I can say I usually use the resupply when the Armory has been destroyed there is a menu option for "Resupply" when you build enough levels (I think it is a 1 point option) to get it and resupply your health. It is like when you want to upgrade a weapon, works the same way.

I think it may even resupply the entire team..... Mmmmm

[LordSkitch]

Resupply is like.. a required immediate upgrade, cause otherwise a skulk hits you once, youre out of armor and you have 20 health left, so anything will kill you the next time you see it. With resupply, you'll atleast get healed back to 100...