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Geralt
post Nov 4 2009, 12:11 AM
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So, I decided to email Robin Walker about the bot interface for TF2... and, well, we might get lucky in the future; unless he was lying, of course.

Here is the email I sent to Robin:

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Hi Robin

First of all - thanks for taking time to read this email, I'm gonna
jump straight to it:

So - the reason I am writing this, is because I love my bots. No, not
aimbots - I mean AI bots. Bots provide a way for more players to enjoy
the game; while I can play online, at times I cannot due to many
different reasons:

~ No Internet access.
~ Slow Internet.
~ Someone else using the Internet.

And many people I know will not play online for various reasons:

~ Immature kids...
~ Hacks.

And, of course, Team Fortress 2 wouldn't be very fun by myself running
around in an empty server.

There is currently a bot mod known as RCBot, here:
http://rcbot.bots-united.com/

RCBot adds reasonably good bots - but they are still quite buggy, and
sometimes unplayable; but yes, they are better than none.

So I'm wondering - why haven't you guys added bots into the game yet?
I don't see any reason not to.

Maybe you don't need to - because of Omni-Bot. I have been waiting for
over a year for Valve to release the bot-interface, so we can have
Team Fortress 2 bots. You may want to read these in order:

http://www.omni-bot.de/e107/news.php?extend.51.8
http://www.omni-bot.de/e107/news.php?extend.53.8
http://www.omni-bot.de/e107/news.php?extend.58.8

So where is this bot-interface? I've been waiting over a year - should
I just stop waiting, will it never come?

It's not only me - many people want bots, and if the game had bots all
those people could enjoy it.

Thanks for taking the time to read and thanks for a great game,
Geralt.


The reply I received was short:

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Hi Geralt.
We're working on something that we think will make you pretty dang happy.

Robin.


So what do you guys think we'll get? Official bots, or maybe just the bot interface? Something else?

I'm excited to find out - hopefully it won't be too long before it gets released. (Whatever it is).
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Rudolf_Hess
post Nov 4 2009, 06:14 AM
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Very doubtful i reckon.More likely just a plesant email to stop you emailing him.
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post Nov 4 2009, 06:19 AM
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I emailed him once - he'd have no reason to make that up "just to shut me up". I highly doubt it's a lie.
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:10 AM
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Belive when i see it Valve have promised in the past a shed load of stuff and were still waiting.
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:16 AM
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And those things are? (excluding what I mentioned in my email)
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post Nov 4 2009, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 4 2009, 10:10 AM) *

Belive when i see it Valve have promised in the past a shed load of stuff and were still waiting.

as long as he doesn't say episode 3.
people say that quite a lot.
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:25 PM
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I remember specific things related to port from DOD to DOD Soruce.And theres other things i don't feel the need to explain thank you.Until we here anything officialy from Valve in public i regard it as a myth.I'm very happy with RC2bot it's excellent effort.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 5 2009, 09:25 AM) *
And theres other things i don't feel the need to explain thank you.


Why, because there is none? rolleyes.gif

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I remember specific things related to port from DOD to DOD Soruce.


You remember specific things, yet you don't name them? What are these "specific things", and when did they say they'd port them?
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post Nov 5 2009, 12:13 AM
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I allready told you i don't need to explain my self to you.I'm not saying your infomation is bullshit only that Valve can no longer be trusted when they say these types of things.
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post Nov 5 2009, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 5 2009, 12:13 AM) *

I allready told you i don't need to explain my self to you.I'm not saying your infomation is bullshit only that Valve can no longer be trusted when they say these types of things.

When you say something, like valve can't be trusted, you should atleast try to base your claim on something.
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post Nov 5 2009, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Fillmore @ Nov 5 2009, 01:58 PM) *

When you say something, like valve can't be trusted, you should atleast try to base your claim on something.


No need as it's pretty much known many communities wide.I'm not going to get any further into this discussion because my focus is having fun with Rc2bot possibly making waypoints later.
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post Nov 5 2009, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 6 2009, 01:49 AM) *

No need as it's pretty much known many communities wide.I'm not going to get any further into this discussion because my focus is having fun with Rc2bot possibly making waypoints later.


I had a look around these "many communites" wide and couldn't find anything significant - can you please link us to some sources?
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Geralt @ Nov 5 2009, 10:47 PM) *

I had a look around these "many communites" wide and couldn't find anything significant - can you please link us to some sources?


Not my problem as i said i'm here for diffrent reasons like RC2bot
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post Nov 6 2009, 12:43 PM
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You're the biggest bullshitter.
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post Nov 6 2009, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fillmore @ Nov 5 2009, 11:28 PM) *

When you say something, like valve can't be trusted, you should atleast try to base your claim on something.


Yep, "he who alleges must prove" is the way I like to put it.

In 2 minutes with google I found a few sketchy "promises":

* More Portal (not yet, but kinda)
* HL2 EP3 would be out about 12 months after EP2 (lol)
* to support L4D1 (according to L4D1 players)

Also did they ever promise something like never offering paid DLC on the PC, because I remember there was a bit of a stink when they added a DLC interface to Steam. Well that hasn't been broken yet, right?
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post Nov 6 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(chann @ Nov 6 2009, 06:59 AM) *

Also did they ever promise something like never offering paid DLC on the PC, because I remember there was a bit of a stink when they added a DLC interface to Steam. Well that hasn't been broken yet, right?


I think that was only for Valve's games. There are some games on Steam that have DLC that you have to pay for (Killing Floor, The Maw, and Fear 2 are some examples IIRC).

Also (back on topic), anyone remember the update pages for the "classless update"? Some of the pages had hidden links and on of the hidden links led to a page that had a fake newspaper page talking about a new "RO-BOT". I'm not sure if this means actual bots for the game, a new feature/weapon, or just random silliness.

I'll try and find the page later...

EDIT: http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/populace/
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post Nov 6 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Geralt @ Nov 6 2009, 12:43 PM) *

You're the biggest bullshitter.


I don't care what you think.
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post Nov 7 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 6 2009, 04:51 PM) *

I don't care what you think.


Bit of a testosterone deathmatch here, isn't it?
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post Nov 7 2009, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolf_Hess @ Nov 7 2009, 03:51 AM) *

I don't care what you think.


It's not what I think - it's what I know. You know it too.

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Bit of a testosterone deathmatch here, isn't it?


Seems to be. dry.gif
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post Nov 7 2009, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Geralt @ Nov 7 2009, 01:09 PM) *

It's not what I think - it's what I know. You know it too.
Seems to be. dry.gif


I know this much you're self inportant lowly little waypointer that's done nothing in this thread but troll.

Self inportant litlle turd strikes again:
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Buy the game; I don't think we should support someone who isn't supporting the developers.

I see another Valve fan boy and since when was you're opinion so inportant lol?
You say we should support someone who isn't supporting the developers.So i'm guessing your part of Dev team of RC2bot or with Valve wow what a fuckin joke.
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