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Claw99
post Mar 14 2014, 11:46 AM
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Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOTS in specific areas on a map? Allies and Axis would not spawn there.
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post Mar 14 2014, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(Claw99 @ Mar 14 2014, 03:46 AM) *

Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOTS in specific areas on a map? Allies and Axis would not spawn there.

No... not just for bots... why just for bots???

Do you want spawn points for just normal dod gameplay? I know it can be done with root's sourcemod deathmatch plugin. see this post...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....ost&p=11630

There may be a plugin just for spawn points? Check allied moders for that as well as root's plugins (or try http://dodsplugins.com/index.php in his sig). Genmac has modified a few maps here and may know how to do it. I think it's a rip entity thing to move or add spawn points. Using a sourcemod plugin would be much easier and then you don't need a modified map...
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post Mar 15 2014, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(madmax2 @ Mar 14 2014, 02:31 PM) *

No... not just for bots... why just for bots???

Do you want spawn points for just normal dod gameplay? I know it can be done with root's sourcemod deathmatch plugin. see this post...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....ost&p=11630

There may be a plugin just for spawn points? Check allied moders for that as well as root's plugins (or try http://dodsplugins.com/index.php in his sig). Genmac has modified a few maps here and may know how to do it. I think it's a rip entity thing to move or add spawn points. Using a sourcemod plugin would be much easier and then you don't need a modified map...

Thanks I'll check it out.

QUOTE(Claw99 @ Mar 15 2014, 04:26 PM) *

Thanks I'll check it out.

I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

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Thanks I'll check it out.
I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

Is there a "How To" for setting up spawn points for Bots using Death Match?
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post Mar 15 2014, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Claw99 @ Mar 15 2014, 12:43 PM) *

I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

Cool, building a custom map, it's good to have mappers interested in RCbot cool.gif ... Your project sounds interesting too... As for setting the bots for "free for all", you can use the "rcbot_ffa 1" cvar. This will make bots on the same team attack each other as well as enemy team. But to do damage to "friendly" teammates, you must also set "mp_friendlyfire 1".

It sounds like what you are trying to do with the bots might not work unsure.gif ? Currently, I don't know if RCbot2 can support more then 2 teams? Thats beyond my knowledge. It sounds like you want to use them for 3 or 4 teams (axis, allied, alien/predator)? RCbots wouldn't have the behaviors you would want for the alien/predators. Perhaps you have something else in mind for the alien/predator bots??? I would think you would need to add the alien/predators into the map as NPC's (Non Player Characters) some how?

Also, I have no idea how to limit the spawns to bots only, unless there is a plugin or mod for that, which I doubt.

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Is there a "How To" for setting up spawn points for Bots using Death Match?


Not that I know of, but i'm not into the deathmatch mod that much. I think genmac posted some info here, just try some searches, on dm, tdm, root, etc. You will need sourcemod, metamod source, and root's deathmatch sourcemod plugin. The deathmatch plugin removes the flags from the map and uses config files for each map. But I really don't know what all can be done with it beyond playing DM and adding/removing spawn points...

But, hey, it's a cool idea for a map, i'd like to play it when you release it... smile.gif
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QUOTE(madmax2 @ Mar 15 2014, 07:53 PM) *

Cool, building a custom map, it's good to have mappers interested in RCbot cool.gif ... Your project sounds interesting too... As for setting the bots for "free for all", you can use the "rcbot_ffa 1" cvar. This will make bots on the same team attack each other as well as enemy team. But to do damage to "friendly" teammates, you must also set "mp_friendlyfire 1".

It sounds like what you are trying to do with the bots might not work unsure.gif ? Currently, I don't know if RCbot2 can support more then 2 teams? Thats beyond my knowledge. It sounds like you want to use them for 3 or 4 teams (axis, allied, alien/predator)? RCbots wouldn't have the behaviors you would want for the alien/predators. Perhaps you have something else in mind for the alien/predator bots??? I would think you would need to add the alien/predators into the map as NPC's (Non Player Characters) some how?

Also, I have no idea how to limit the spawns to bots only, unless there is a plugin or mod for that, which I doubt.
Not that I know of, but i'm not into the deathmatch mod that much. I think genmac posted some info here, just try some searches, on dm, tdm, root, etc. You will need sourcemod, metamod source, and root's deathmatch sourcemod plugin. The deathmatch plugin removes the flags from the map and uses config files for each map. But I really don't know what all can be done with it beyond playing DM and adding/removing spawn points...

But, hey, it's a cool idea for a map, i'd like to play it when you release it... smile.gif

Thanks for the help Max!
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post Mar 17 2014, 12:52 PM
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Thanks for the help Max!

Do you know if there is a way to still use RCBots2 without allowing sv_cheats? I plan on using this map in a public server scenario.
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QUOTE(Claw99 @ Mar 17 2014, 04:52 AM) *

Do you know if there is a way to still use RCBots2 without allowing sv_cheats? I plan on using this map in a public server scenario.

You can try these things, but I have no dedi so can't test & I don't know what works?

Cheeseh said this in the .76 changes:

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convar rcbot_sv_cheats_warning: If disabled, bots will try to spawn even if sv_cheats is 1 - use only with admin cvar plugin


Before that cvar was added to RCbot2, was this topic, and root made a nocheats plugin. If need be, you could try the nocheat plugin alone or in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning" cvar...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....789&hl=root

There may additional info in other topics? It has come up from time to time...
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QUOTE(madmax2 @ Mar 17 2014, 03:06 PM) *

You can try these things, but I have no dedi so can't test & I don't know what works?

Cheeseh said this in the .76 changes:
Before that cvar was added to RCbot2, was this topic, and root made a nocheats plugin. If need be, you could try the nocheat plugin alone or in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning" cvar...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....789&hl=root

There may additional info in other topics? It has come up from time to time...

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to cvar stuff. What do I need to specifically do to get this to work. Do I to put some lines in the server,cfg file? If so what are they?
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Claw99   Spawn Points Specifically for Bots   Mar 14 2014, 11:46 AM
madmax2   Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOT...   Mar 14 2014, 06:31 PM
Claw99   No... not just for bots... why just for bots??? ...   Mar 15 2014, 08:43 PM
madmax2   I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I...   Mar 15 2014, 11:53 PM
Claw99   Cool, building a custom map, it's good to hav...   Mar 17 2014, 11:20 AM
Claw99   Thanks for the help Max! Do you know if ther...   Mar 17 2014, 12:52 PM
madmax2   Do you know if there is a way to still use RCBots...   Mar 17 2014, 07:06 PM
Claw99   You can try these things, but I have no dedi so c...   Mar 18 2014, 09:47 PM
Claw99   I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to cvar stu...   Mar 19 2014, 09:26 AM
madmax2   I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to cvar stu...   Mar 19 2014, 08:00 PM
Claw99   Sorry for late reply, not at home right now... I...   Mar 20 2014, 01:49 AM
Claw99   Thank guys. I'll work on it tonight. I remo...   Mar 20 2014, 02:23 AM
Cheeseh   Anyway don't worry I've got bots to join w...   Mar 20 2014, 11:14 PM
Claw99   Anyway don't worry I've got bots to join ...   Mar 22 2014, 12:44 AM
Claw99   Ok. I'll test it out. Thanks Cheeseh Yes it ...   Mar 22 2014, 03:09 AM
Claw99   Yes it worked! Thanks!! Do you know a...   Mar 22 2014, 03:28 AM
Cheeseh   Does RCbot have the bot_teleport command availabl...   Mar 22 2014, 10:34 AM
Claw99   Not yet I've not yet added any functionality ...   Mar 22 2014, 11:00 AM
Claw99   Thanks for all the help. Your plugin is great...   Mar 22 2014, 01:15 PM
SPYderman   I was also contemplating whether there was a way ...   Mar 22 2014, 06:42 PM
Claw99   There is a way, but you'd need to decompile t...   Mar 23 2014, 12:37 AM
Cheeseh   Yes I tried to however I don't know what kind...   Mar 23 2014, 04:30 AM
Claw99   well if I could figure out how to teleport things...   Mar 23 2014, 08:22 AM
Claw99   I'll just keep experimenting with it. Cheese...   Mar 23 2014, 03:31 PM
Cheeseh   Cheeseh, Let me know if you come up with anything...   Apr 1 2014, 12:31 PM
Cheeseh   I'm reintroducing the teleport command in RCB...   Apr 2 2014, 02:44 PM


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