Spawn Points Specifically for Bots, Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOTS Options

[Claw99]

Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOTS in specific areas on a map? Allies and Axis would not spawn there.

[madmax2]

Is there a way to setup spawn points only for BOTS in specific areas on a map? Allies and Axis would not spawn there.

No... not just for bots... why just for bots???

Do you want spawn points for just normal dod gameplay? I know it can be done with root's sourcemod deathmatch plugin. see this post...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....ost&p=11630

There may be a plugin just for spawn points? Check allied moders for that as well as root's plugins (or try http://dodsplugins.com/index.php in his sig). Genmac has modified a few maps here and may know how to do it. I think it's a rip entity thing to move or add spawn points. Using a sourcemod plugin would be much easier and then you don't need a modified map...

[Claw99]

No... not just for bots... why just for bots???

Do you want spawn points for just normal dod gameplay? I know it can be done with root's sourcemod deathmatch plugin. see this post...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....ost&p=11630

There may be a plugin just for spawn points? Check allied moders for that as well as root's plugins (or try http://dodsplugins.com/index.php in his sig). Genmac has modified a few maps here and may know how to do it. I think it's a rip entity thing to move or add spawn points. Using a sourcemod plugin would be much easier and then you don't need a modified map...

Thanks I'll check it out.

Thanks I'll check it out.

I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

Thanks I'll check it out.
I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

Is there a "How To" for setting up spawn points for Bots using Death Match?

[madmax2]

I'm trying to set this up for a custom map I'm building. It's based on Aliens Vs. Predator movie/theme. The idea is that the Axis team spawns on one side of the map, say the mining town and the Allied team spawns near the mother ship. There are flags all over including under ground in the Mayan Temple. I want Predator Bots to spawn on the mother ship and Alien bots to spawn in the Mayan temple. That's why I'm looking to place spawn points specifically for Bots. On another note, is there a command that sets the bots to do a Free For All so no matter what side they are on, they attack everyone?

Cool, building a custom map, it's good to have mappers interested in RCbot ... Your project sounds interesting too... As for setting the bots for "free for all", you can use the "rcbot_ffa 1" cvar. This will make bots on the same team attack each other as well as enemy team. But to do damage to "friendly" teammates, you must also set "mp_friendlyfire 1".

It sounds like what you are trying to do with the bots might not work ? Currently, I don't know if RCbot2 can support more then 2 teams? Thats beyond my knowledge. It sounds like you want to use them for 3 or 4 teams (axis, allied, alien/predator)? RCbots wouldn't have the behaviors you would want for the alien/predators. Perhaps you have something else in mind for the alien/predator bots??? I would think you would need to add the alien/predators into the map as NPC's (Non Player Characters) some how?

Also, I have no idea how to limit the spawns to bots only, unless there is a plugin or mod for that, which I doubt.

Is there a "How To" for setting up spawn points for Bots using Death Match?

Not that I know of, but i'm not into the deathmatch mod that much. I think genmac posted some info here, just try some searches, on dm, tdm, root, etc. You will need sourcemod, metamod source, and root's deathmatch sourcemod plugin. The deathmatch plugin removes the flags from the map and uses config files for each map. But I really don't know what all can be done with it beyond playing DM and adding/removing spawn points...

But, hey, it's a cool idea for a map, i'd like to play it when you release it...

[Claw99]

Cool, building a custom map, it's good to have mappers interested in RCbot ... Your project sounds interesting too... As for setting the bots for "free for all", you can use the "rcbot_ffa 1" cvar. This will make bots on the same team attack each other as well as enemy team. But to do damage to "friendly" teammates, you must also set "mp_friendlyfire 1".

It sounds like what you are trying to do with the bots might not work ? Currently, I don't know if RCbot2 can support more then 2 teams? Thats beyond my knowledge. It sounds like you want to use them for 3 or 4 teams (axis, allied, alien/predator)? RCbots wouldn't have the behaviors you would want for the alien/predators. Perhaps you have something else in mind for the alien/predator bots??? I would think you would need to add the alien/predators into the map as NPC's (Non Player Characters) some how?

Also, I have no idea how to limit the spawns to bots only, unless there is a plugin or mod for that, which I doubt.
Not that I know of, but i'm not into the deathmatch mod that much. I think genmac posted some info here, just try some searches, on dm, tdm, root, etc. You will need sourcemod, metamod source, and root's deathmatch sourcemod plugin. The deathmatch plugin removes the flags from the map and uses config files for each map. But I really don't know what all can be done with it beyond playing DM and adding/removing spawn points...

But, hey, it's a cool idea for a map, i'd like to play it when you release it...

Thanks for the help Max!

[Claw99]

Thanks for the help Max!

Do you know if there is a way to still use RCBots2 without allowing sv_cheats? I plan on using this map in a public server scenario.

[madmax2]

Do you know if there is a way to still use RCBots2 without allowing sv_cheats? I plan on using this map in a public server scenario.

You can try these things, but I have no dedi so can't test & I don't know what works?

Cheeseh said this in the .76 changes:

convar rcbot_sv_cheats_warning: If disabled, bots will try to spawn even if sv_cheats is 1 - use only with admin cvar plugin

Before that cvar was added to RCbot2, was this topic, and root made a nocheats plugin. If need be, you could try the nocheat plugin alone or in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning" cvar...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....789&hl=root

There may additional info in other topics? It has come up from time to time...

[Claw99]

You can try these things, but I have no dedi so can't test & I don't know what works?

Cheeseh said this in the .76 changes:
Before that cvar was added to RCbot2, was this topic, and root made a nocheats plugin. If need be, you could try the nocheat plugin alone or in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning" cvar...

http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index....789&hl=root

There may additional info in other topics? It has come up from time to time...

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to cvar stuff. What do I need to specifically do to get this to work. Do I to put some lines in the server,cfg file? If so what are they?

[madmax2]

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to cvar stuff. What do I need to specifically do to get this to work. Do I to put some lines in the server,cfg file? If so what are they?

Sorry for late reply, not at home right now...

I'm not sure this works, but i'd just try the cvar without the nocheats plugin first. The server.cfg may work, but i'd try it in the rcbot2 config.ini. You can also put non rcbot2 cvars in the rcbot2 config.ini.

"rcbot_sv_cheats_warning 1" is the default. change to 0 to turn off the cheats warning.

The nocheats plugin may not be needed with this cvar, bots will try to spawn regardless of the sv_cheats setting (try both sv_cheats 0 or 1). Again, I have not seen confirmation this will work to remove the flagged cheat server status. Cheeseh also says it must be used with the admin cvar, I don't know if he is refering to the admin plugin that comes with sourcemod by default, or something else?

I put in the nocheats.smx in the C:\srcds\dod\addons\sourcemod\plugins folder and then I put the nocheats.sp file in the C:\srcds\dod\addons\sourcemod\scripting folder. I set the sv_cheats to 0. When I try to add bots, I'm still getting the error sv_cheats must be 1 to add bots. Am I missing something? Maybe I'm missing a cvar line?

I just thought you could try it with the nocheats plugin, if all else fails. I haven't seen confirmation this works either. (The file locations look correct)

Root said:
Also make sure variables like 'sv_cheats' and 'rcbot_sv_cheats_auto' in config.ini set to 0

But you may have to set one or the other to 1 to get bots to spawn. I thought perhaps in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning 0" setting bots might spawn with both set to 0?

I think you may be blazing new ground? There has got to be others that have tried this, but i have not seen feedback as to success or failure? So, let us know how it turns out either way, thanks... And if anyone knows, feel free to jump in and tell us your results, or suggestions...

[Claw99]

Sorry for late reply, not at home right now...

I'm not sure this works, but i'd just try the cvar without the nocheats plugin first. The server.cfg may work, but i'd try it in the rcbot2 config.ini. You can also put non rcbot2 cvars in the rcbot2 config.ini.

"rcbot_sv_cheats_warning 1" is the default. change to 0 to turn off the cheats warning.

The nocheats plugin may not be needed with this cvar, bots will try to spawn regardless of the sv_cheats setting (try both sv_cheats 0 or 1). Again, I have not seen confirmation this will work to remove the flagged cheat server status. Cheeseh also says it must be used with the admin cvar, I don't know if he is refering to the admin plugin that comes with sourcemod by default, or something else?
I just thought you could try it with the nocheats plugin, if all else fails. I haven't seen confirmation this works either. (The file locations look correct)
But you may have to set one or the other to 1 to get bots to spawn. I thought perhaps in combination with the "rcbot_sv_cheats_warning 0" setting bots might spawn with both set to 0?

I think you may be blazing new ground? There has got to be others that have tried this, but i have not seen feedback as to success or failure? So, let us know how it turns out either way, thanks... And if anyone knows, feel free to jump in and tell us your results, or suggestions...

Thank guys. I'll work on it tonight.

[Claw99]

Thank guys. I'll work on it tonight.

I removed the nocheats.smx and the nocheats.sp.
I set the sv_cheats and 'rcbot_sv_cheats_auto' to O and I added rcbot_sv_cheats_warning 0 (it was not in the rcbot2\config folder) to the config.ini in the rcbot2\config directory. Then tested:

It's still saying that sv_cheats must be set to 1 for addbot to work. Also I couldn't find the admin cvar that was mentioned by Root. Do I need to create an admin.cfg and if so, where do put the file?

Then I tried with the nocheats plugin and it still gave me the same error " sv_cheats must be set to 1 to add bots"

Ant other suggestions? All I want to do is use bots on a public server without having to turn on cheats. Is this even possible? If it is absolutely necessary, is their a way to stop players form using cheats? Thanks guys!