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[Ilhom]

Waypoint bugs

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capture waypoints are too small. Might be minor, but at least at A attackers escape from sentry's fire by hiding behind the wall and at the same time capturing the point.



Defenders go in the same spot and become an easy target for a demoman with Loch-n-Load, a soldier with Direct Hit, a pyro with anything. That happens because there there is a waypoint marked as defend.



Also, why is the waypoint marked as openslater placed not right in the door but beside?



BLU demomen are trying to place stickybombs and destroy sentrys but kill theirselves in result. Not sure if it has to do something with waypoints.



These two waypoints are marked only as defend but not as sniper so it's weird to see pyros defending the point through the window.



There are waypoints marked as doublejump but E can be accessed using rocketjump or stickybomb jump too.

As there are limits for the quantity of images per post, the other images will be posted as links.

http://i.imgur.com/sVZxxPI.jpg

Neither doublejump nor rocketjump.

http://i.imgur.com/kpdjSCZ.jpg

And as the platform can be accesed using Double Jump or Rocket Jump, this ammo box can be used both by BLU and RED, so the noredteam type should be removed.

http://i.imgur.com/qKVs0tm.jpg

These ammo box and health kit can be accessed by both commands, so the areaonly type can be removed from that waypoint.

http://i.imgur.com/0cKXW3K.png

http://i.imgur.com/JZlpHrc.jpg

No rocketjump waypoints.

http://i.imgur.com/Lc1fJ2Q.jpg

The upper corridor can be accessed using Rocket Jump.

http://i.imgur.com/ruRpJCe.jpg

This corridor can be used as an BLU engineer spot.

http://i.imgur.com/EQYnYWo.jpg

Teleport exit can be placed here.

http://i.imgur.com/iQu6mQX.jpg

There are two sentry points there. One has noblueteam and the other doesn't. Not sure if it is a bug and it is supposed to be so.

Unwaypointed maps

This is the list of standard maps (that are included with the game) that aren't waypointed.

Arena

• nucleus
• offblast_final (a waypoint by dgesd exists)
• sawmill

Capture the Flag

• foundry
• gorge
• thundermountain

Payload

• cactuscanyon (waypoints by Fillmore, KnuckleDuckt and ManofHats exist)

The list of bugs in waypoint will be updated later.

Thanks for the attention.

[madmax2]

@ Ilhom

So, your reply means that it's bad style to make waypoints in waypoints, doesn't it?

The large radius on both wpts makes it so bots don't have to pass through the center of the wpt. Perhaps the waypointer wanted bots to approach the item there at an unpredictable, random path? Or full freedom of movement in that area? As long as bots don't get caught on the wall corners, it's probably ok...

I don't overlap wpt radii to often, but I like to alternate large radius then 0 radius, etc. Sometimes the 0 radius wpt will be inside the large radius of another wpt. By alternating the radius that way, it causes bots to run wide then pull in tight then wide again, which looks cool when they are sprinting, they almost have a side step, random motion, when it works.

The engineer is trying to build a dispenser. I think he's trying to build it in the waypoint's size, but can't place it because the waypoint is too small. Perhaps increasing the size will fix the problem?

Might work? 0 radius might work too? I suspect the wpt is to close to the wall, would be my guess...

[edited]

Also, why is the waypoint marked as openslater placed not right in the door but beside?

Bots check for the path between 2 openslater waypoints (rcbot2).

[Ilhom]

@ Ilhom
The large radius on both wpts makes it so bots don't have to pass through the center of the wpt. Perhaps the waypointer wanted bots to approach the item there at an unpredictable, random path? Or full freedom of movement in that area? As long as bots don't get caught on the wall corners, it's probably ok...

I don't overlap wpt radii to often, but I like to alternate large radius then 0 radius, etc. Sometimes the 0 radius wpt will be inside the large radius of another wpt. By alternating the radius that way, it causes bots to run wide then pull in tight then wide again, which looks cool when they are sprinting, they almost have a side step, random motion, when it works.
Might work? 0 radius might work too? I suspect the wpt is to close to the wall, would be my guess...

[edited]
Bots check for the path between 2 openslater waypoints (rcbot2).

Many thanks for the detailed answer!