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Geralt
post Dec 18 2009, 01:34 AM
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Hey guys

In case you didn't know, Valve released a TF2 update today... and in the changelog, it says:

"Added work-in-progress TF Bots for beta testing in KOTH maps (blog post coming with more info)"

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3267/

Downloading now, I'll let you guys know how they are! smile.gif
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post Dec 19 2009, 02:38 PM
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well, i been running these side by side for the last day, and have spent some time with the new ones... new bot Pros:
-they have a nav mesh system for waypointing (nice, easy, fast)
-their nav mesh allows for movements that is more natural (not quite as predictable as rcbot2)
-classes included mostly do their jobs (medic wont fight much... just waits for someone to heal, or to be killed standing still)
-snipers seem more effective than Rcbot2 (at least for now...)
-they are a formidable opponent on most KOTH maps... (the only ones "officially" suported)

Cons:
-not all classes are in yet (i haver not seen scout or spy yet)
-red cannot cap on cp maps (still beta, im sure this will change)
-ctf does not work at all... bots just stand there
-pl blu runs to cap point without the cat DOH!!... and red just wanders around... (at least they fight...)
-not nearly as "smart" as rcbot!! (i catch way more of them sleeping than my rcbots... of course i have rcbot intellignecs and skills cranked up... not sure how they compare to a raw install of this bot...)

all in all, i can say my rcbot2 server stays mostly full and the biggest complaint i get is the bots are "too good" with the skills cranked up, but they are not supposed to be freebees as you get points in our scoring system for killing them... lol... and my servers running the new bots dont see near the same amount of play... i think valve has a lot of work to do if they want to dethrone the reigning king!! biggrin.gif RCBOT2 FTW!!!!!
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post Dec 19 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(DrPuffinKind @ Dec 19 2009, 10:38 PM) *

well, i been running these side by side for the last day, and have spent some time with the new ones... new bot Pros:
-they have a nav mesh system for waypointing (nice, easy, fast)
-their nav mesh allows for movements that is more natural (not quite as predictable as rcbot2)
-classes included mostly do their jobs (medic wont fight much... just waits for someone to heal, or to be killed standing still)
-snipers seem more effective than Rcbot2 (at least for now...)
-they are a formidable opponent on most KOTH maps... (the only ones "officially" suported)

Cons:
-not all classes are in yet (i haver not seen scout or spy yet)
-red cannot cap on cp maps (still beta, im sure this will change)
-ctf does not work at all... bots just stand there
-pl blu runs to cap point without the cat DOH!!... and red just wanders around... (at least they fight...)
-not nearly as "smart" as rcbot!! (i catch way more of them sleeping than my rcbots... of course i have rcbot intellignecs and skills cranked up... not sure how they compare to a raw install of this bot...)

all in all, i can say my rcbot2 server stays mostly full and the biggest complaint i get is the bots are "too good" with the skills cranked up, but they are not supposed to be freebees as you get points in our scoring system for killing them... lol... and my servers running the new bots dont see near the same amount of play... i think valve has a lot of work to do if they want to dethrone the reigning king!! biggrin.gif RCBOT2 FTW!!!!!


Heyo, have you tried using nav_generate? Its awesome, I use that to generate the waypoints for the TF bots and it works quite best on koth_garbage_day
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Geralt   Official TF2 Bots!   Dec 18 2009, 01:34 AM
DrPuffinKind   oh!... wow... and no mention of it at omni bot...   Dec 18 2009, 02:09 AM
Geralt   Great! They are really, really, REALLY good...   Dec 18 2009, 02:49 AM
DrPuffinKind   Great! They are really, really, REALLY good...   Dec 18 2009, 04:02 AM
Geralt   tf_bot_add   Dec 18 2009, 04:29 AM
naMelesS   Yea i tried it but the rcbots crash due to the WAR...   Dec 18 2009, 06:36 AM
chann   Yea i tried it but the rcbots crash due to the WA...   Dec 18 2009, 09:07 AM
naMelesS   Oh no no sorry my mistake, i mean that TF Bots   Dec 18 2009, 12:07 PM
DrPuffinKind   i am running new bots on 1 server and rcbot2 on an...   Dec 18 2009, 12:21 PM
Fillmore   Why do I crash everytime i type tf_bot_add?   Dec 18 2009, 12:46 PM
DrPuffinKind   Why do I crash everytime i type tf_bot_add? tf ...   Dec 18 2009, 01:43 PM
Fillmore   tf bots only work on stock koth maps... that coul...   Dec 18 2009, 02:22 PM
dzoo   Why do I crash everytime i type tf_bot_add? lol...   Aug 30 2010, 05:51 PM
DrPuffinKind   huh... dont know what to tell u... they are workin...   Dec 18 2009, 03:19 PM
naMelesS   huh... dont know what to tell u... they are worki...   Dec 18 2009, 03:43 PM
DrPuffinKind   hldsupdatetool windows server 2003   Dec 18 2009, 03:49 PM
Fillmore   hldsupdatetool windows server 2003 so... know a...   Dec 18 2009, 04:33 PM
DrPuffinKind   so... know any servers that use these TFBots? I d...   Dec 18 2009, 05:17 PM
NifesNforks   Works fine with me on listenserver and I'm in ...   Dec 18 2009, 05:36 PM
Fillmore   Works fine with me on listenserver and I'm in...   Dec 18 2009, 05:41 PM
der.zoomer   Those bots work even with ty_hydro using a automat...   Dec 18 2009, 05:40 PM
DeviusCreed   You could try disabling all of the non-admin plugi...   Dec 18 2009, 07:01 PM
Fillmore   You could try disabling all of the non-admin plug...   Dec 18 2009, 07:31 PM
lurker123   I've disabled sourcemod itself,but it still c...   Dec 19 2009, 04:42 AM
naMelesS   I've disabled sourcemod itself,but it still c...   Dec 19 2009, 07:28 AM
Fillmore   Oh yea, you have to remove the rcbot plugin befor...   Dec 19 2009, 07:45 PM
DrPuffinKind   well, i been running these side by side for the la...   Dec 19 2009, 02:38 PM
naMelesS   well, i been running these side by side for the l...   Dec 19 2009, 03:13 PM
DrPuffinKind   Heyo, have you tried using nav_generate? Its awes...   Dec 19 2009, 03:31 PM
chann   -snipers seem more effective than Rcbot2 (at leas...   Dec 20 2009, 08:05 AM
der.zoomer   I've just updated my TF2 RCBot2 Server and sta...   Dec 19 2009, 03:32 PM
Ben L.   It would be cool if RCBot could read (or convert) ...   Dec 20 2009, 04:19 PM
Fillmore   It would be cool if RCBot could read (or convert)...   Dec 22 2009, 10:47 AM
der.zoomer   It would be cool if RCBot could read (or convert)...   Dec 20 2009, 07:45 PM
chann   There's now a blog update about the TFbots. In...   Dec 22 2009, 03:29 AM
Sjru   Somebody forgot to say it, but fire shows when tfb...   Dec 24 2009, 09:41 PM
Cheeseh   Somebody forgot to say it, but fire shows when tf...   Dec 24 2009, 10:04 PM
Sjru   I did it! I managed to use rcbot with tfbot, j...   Dec 24 2009, 10:09 PM
Cheeseh   I did it! I managed to use rcbot with tfbot, ...   Dec 24 2009, 10:12 PM
Sjru   Thats what im doing, but in koth_nucleus, tfbot do...   Dec 24 2009, 10:22 PM
Cheeseh   Thats what im doing, but in koth_nucleus, tfbot d...   Dec 25 2009, 06:46 PM
DrPuffinKind   just for the record, i run servers with both, and ...   Dec 24 2009, 11:00 PM
Sjru   Yeah, I always save a demo, then record from the d...   Dec 25 2009, 08:56 PM
Fillmore   Yeah, I always save a demo, then record from the ...   Dec 26 2009, 02:13 PM
Cheeseh   You put the bots against eachother on achievement...   Dec 26 2009, 02:24 PM
MiroslavR   Much for some peoples dismay, I personally think ...   Dec 26 2009, 10:13 PM
Fillmore   I think there is an official nav mesh for koth_nu...   Dec 27 2009, 11:50 AM
NifesNforks   I just spectated a round on dustbowl 9vs9. the rcb...   Dec 27 2009, 06:50 PM
MiroslavR   Here is a match of both TFBot and RCBot playing on...   Dec 28 2009, 12:06 AM
Geralt   New update released for TFBots: # In KOTH mode, B...   Jan 7 2010, 12:30 AM
Fillmore   New update released for TFBots: # In KOTH mode, ...   Jan 17 2010, 11:15 AM
Rusty   These TFBots aren't anything worth putting maj...   Aug 21 2012, 08:08 PM
sachinbhuriya   hi all please updates new tips for that!   Sep 28 2012, 04:34 AM
Fillmore   hi all please updates new tips for that! New...   Sep 28 2012, 03:21 PM


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