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ns_KOTHv38, great map needs bot waypointing

Ta16	Jun 6 2004, 11:13 PM Post #1
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	plz some way point this map and sandman if you waypoint it TRY THIS TIME. this map r0x0rs http://maps.marks-servers.com/ns_KOTHv38.zip

Sandman[SA]	Jun 7 2004, 12:23 AM Post #2
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	I will try but no promouses. You do realize that the bots will NOT be able to use those guns?

Ta16	Jun 7 2004, 10:45 PM Post #3
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	who cares about the guns this isnt realy a king of the hill it refers to fort between bases.

Sandman[SA]	Jun 8 2004, 02:59 AM Post #4
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	That really looks like it could be a fun map but I just could not get the bots threw it successfully. I tried wb also and they used most of the doors but they still screewed it up and got stuck when they got to the battle field and the retractable bridge. I tried my best but i'm afraid that this map is just to technical for bots to handle alone.

Ta16	Jun 8 2004, 11:12 PM Post #5
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	Hey kiddies todays word is "KeyWord" example to technical for bots to handle "ALONE". what tool do you use for waypointing also is there a way to have the bots wait for the bridge to come out cuz i can open all the stuff.

LordSkitch	Jun 8 2004, 11:58 PM Post #6
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	...did you just insult the official RCBot waypointer? And you don't have a clue how to even begin waypointing?

Cheeseh

Jun 9 2004, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE (Ta16 @ Jun 8 2004, 11:12 PM)

also is there a way to have the bots wait for the bridge to come out cuz i can open all the stuff.

a wait for lift waypoint may do the trick but they wait a maximum of only 10 seconds.. incase they think theyre stuck

Sandman[SA]

Jun 9 2004, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE (Ta16 @ Jun 8 2004, 11:12 PM)

1) Hey kiddies todays word is "KeyWord"
example:
to technical for bots to handle "ALONE".

1) Yeah, that's right. Bots can't handle this kind of map alone. Administrators will be up to thier eye balls, fishing the bots out of trouble areas constantly. I'm sure even you can understand that, right?

QUOTE (Ta16 @ Jun 8 2004, 11:12 PM)

2) what tool do you use for waypointing?

2) The waypointing editor intergreted in the rcbot dll. What do you use?

QUOTE (Ta16 @ Jun 8 2004, 11:12 PM)

3) also is there a way to have the bots wait for the bridge to come out cuz i can open all the stuff.

3) Sure but the the problem is, the bots don't wait long enough. They wait for ten seconds at a wait_for_lift waypoint but the thing is, that bridge takes over twenty seconds to open and there is no way out once you fall in the pit unless your a human playing as a skulk, lerk, fade or jetpacker.

Look, I tried my best with every trick I know with the current release of both rcbot and whichbot to get them to reach "any" destination but in my opinion, I don't think that there currently is an NS bot that can run this technical of a map reliably. If ANYONE feels that they can waypoint this map so that the bots will travel the map end to end with at least an 80% chance of reliability then be my guest. I can't get that kind of results with a map like this.

Ta16	Jun 9 2004, 06:34 PM Post #9
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	1) note to self invent command line Wait_for_bridge 2) how bout have the waypoints make the rine bots go ingto defencive poistions (like doggystyle j/king) and have the aliens attack thats still fun kinda a offence defence type senario and have them follow my orders that could work for them to cross the bridge can you do that because im thinking of a defence stratgy for that map ands i need aliens to do all out in attack and rines to be completeky defensive can you do that? 3) how do you use teh waypointer? 4) i wasnt insulting the offical waypointer sandmans nice (except when n00bs ask a question without reading the manual.

Chichou	Jun 9 2004, 07:50 PM Post #10
Member Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 29-May 04 From: france Member No.: 305	i'm afraid waypoints do not change the way bots "play". Maybewhichbot would be effective as an offensive team ? If you want bots to follow your orders, just set the wait_for_orders to "1", so that the bots obey you and only you. you make them wait, you open the bridge, then you re(enter the cc to tell them to go across Acctually i don't know at all what this maps looks like so i may be wrong

LordSkitch

Jun 9 2004, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE (Ta16 @ Jun 9 2004, 06:34 PM)

4) i wasnt insulting the offical waypointer sandmans nice (except when n00bs ask a question without reading the manual.

\rcbot\rcbot_waypoints.txt
The complete in's and out's of waypointing, including ascii art.

and theres this too...
RCBots FAQ
Waypoints & Navigation...

Ta16	Jun 10 2004, 12:50 AM Post #12
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	well some1 plz have a waypoint trhat has aliens attack and rinbes fallow orders simple.

Cheeseh	Jun 10 2004, 11:21 AM Post #13
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1	I'll have a go at it! since I've got nothing better to do atm. Might work if I add several wait_for_lift waypoints. have one at each point on the retractable bridge, will make them wait, move, wait, move etc.

Sandman[SA]	Jun 10 2004, 06:50 PM Post #14
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	Good luck cheeseh, your going to need it for this one Maybe we could contact the author of this map and have it altered slightly to be more bot friendly? Make the bridge perminate and have the doors open when you touch a trigger_multiple instead of use a func_button. Just a thought. And while we're at it, have the author put in the info_map entity and compile this map with the nshulls.txt file?

Ta16	Jun 10 2004, 10:45 PM Post #15
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	yay! srry fo all teh typos in my last post but the whole bunker bridge thing is for tactical resons exp. if bridge is closed onos cant cross

Ta16	Jun 17 2004, 06:29 PM Post #16
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 151	ok aside from all grunts waypoints i would like to get that waypoint and be on my way asap if thats alright with cheeseh

\|2usty	Jun 18 2004, 05:39 AM Post #17
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 7-January 04 Member No.: 173	ok i have to have it now seing as i used to throw in all the hell maps for waypointing but.......http://maps.marks-servers.com/ns <<-- is this where i'm supposed to get it 'cos i keep gettin 404 errors when i try to open the link give me a link to the map and i'll have a go at waypointing it (i'm so uber n all)

Sandman[SA]	Jun 18 2004, 05:47 AM Post #18
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	Try this map link. ns_KOTHv38.zip