May be a bug or not Options

[BadLife]

Not sure if this goes in the bug forum or not but after playing a combat level in NS if I leave the game and start a new map things are messed up. I am useing metamod whichbot rcbot ns 3.03b. When I play a combat map after I leave and start a new map the Rcbot does not respond anymore. Not sure about the whichbot that seems hit or miss. I have a key bound to the rcbot menu and it does not work also if I try commands in the console they do not work no error message about command not found just nothing happens

Also in the combat levels say co_core I can't use the command chair is this normal? Heck I made it all the way to general on one level and could give myself all the goodies but could not use the command chair. Whats up with that

[Sandman[SA]]

Well, in combat mode, NO ONE can use the chair. Your just there to defend it with your life

As far as the bots not working after map change, does this always happen or just sometimes? A little info on your system maybe helpful, like operating system, processor speed and amount of memory, that sort of thing.

[Gruuunt]

Check your machine for additional svchosts's running in task-manager. If you are running XP check for tasks with svchosts with LOCAL against them. I had exactly the same thing happen to me after I recieved a gateway virus on my server. It knocked out RcBot and AMX, where RcBot gave the same symptoms as you describe, and AMX caused the server to Crash when any messages were sent. Took me 2 Months to sort mine out so I hope yours isnt that....

Anyway as Sandman said, details?

[BadLife]

Well I do not think I have anything running loose like a virus or anything. I have the system locked down pretty tight. The firewall stops almost anything from getting in or out with out me knowing about it. Check the logs nothing strange messing around besides I shut down the internet connection when I play games on the lan. This box has Win 98 on it I see no need for XP yet due to the cost to upgrade all the pc's on the lan to XP Pro would not even thing of running XP Home. Anyway It's probably not hardware related as nothing else gives me grief. Probably has something to do with running NS under the Won version of HalfLife. I hate Steam it's total garbage and Valve ought to be ashamed for trying to police stuff to that point. Anyway at least I know the deal with the command chair in combat games not sure why it tells you you can use the chair with the tooltips or what ever that is. I'll see if it borks with a map change made by the system instead of me doing it. May be because I was running a listen server with bots instead of a dedicated server. May have to toss another box on the lan to run as a server but that takes up more space

[Sandman[SA]]

Can you give some information as to what plugins you maybe running?

[BadLife]

The only plugins are whichbot and rcbot. Its still messed up after I play one map in this case co_angst then I try to play ns_agora things seem OK at first after I type wb balance on the game starts I try to add RCBots nothing happens I cannot get the bot menu to come up which I have bound to a key and if I try to use the command chair I get a Hall of mirrors effect from above sort of. Stange also I can not start any map that waypoints for both whichbot and rcbot do not exist. That may be a seperate issue though.

[BadLife]

Man does Steam ever bite I was just trying to fire it up and connect to some online servers and boy did it ever mess up

Anyway I think maybe Win98 has something to do with this mess. Some stuff that does not work on the Win98 box seems to work on a WinMe box. Guess I can try Linux if SCO does not come looking for me. Does this stuff work on FreeBSD? Well now that my box has recovered form Steam I guess I'll try again it could alos be some problem with corrupt files but I have no idea what would be causeing that

[BadLife]

I can play as long as I want with no problems on any map with waypoints but as soon as I try any other map things go strange or I get a fault in HalfLife and get dropped the the desktop. Also as I suspected files sometimes get corrupted when that happens. If I copy the NSP folder back from Steam it works again

Boy do I hate Steam

I do not like Valves attitude and may not buy their stinking HalfLife2 if it has anything to do with Steam. They have already spent millions of dollars on it and I hope they go under for pulling a stunt like Steam

Any way NSP is fun to play till the game crashes

[Cheeseh]

[BadLife]

Your probably right I just hate to cought up the bucks to MicoSoft to upgade.
I was hopeing Linux would take over the world and everything would run on it but thanks to SCO that may take a while

I guess I could bite the bullet and buy a copy of WinXP

[BadLife]

I don't seem to have as many problems when I run a dedicated server on the lan Eyeing the pile of parts to see what I can toss togather to use as a NS/SvenCoop server I have an 800mhz Athalon and an old Asus A7V motherboard and 256MB of PC133 and a couple of GeForce2 cards and some 8gb Maxtor HD's also a flakey 40GB Maxtor some 100mb lan cards and a couple of 14" monitors. Now if I only had a case got a SB 5.1 sound card About 6 cases but they all be obsolete and won't work with the MB Guess I need to get rid of them Ack time to go to the case store

[LordSkitch]

My current NS server runs fairly well, but not incredible, it looks a little somethin like this.. well the important part anyhow

AMD Duron 1.30GHz
512MB PC 133 RAM

The HD is crapped out, that'll be replaced soon, well, everything's gettin replaced soon, but I'd suggest somethin along the lines of a 1.4 GHz processor, and 512+ meg of ram, that is, if you're using bots. If not, I had a plain jane TFC/CS server running on a 750Mhz Athlon and it ran pretty good.

As far as the sound card, server OSs don't even come with the sound enabled, for obvious reasons, and the video card isn't overly important, so long as you can run comfortable resolutions, the main thing you need to worry about is processor speed and good amounts of ram...

You might wanna set up a system not in a case (put a box over it if you have cats ), load it up with all the ram you can find, and run either memtest86 or gold memory on it for a day or two to test for problems in the memory itself... RAM flaws can cause a lot of problems, constant crashes, hangs, random freakin' OS reboots, so affectionately called "complimentary reboots", etc.

And as far as gettin' a copy of XP or 2000 Server or what have you, if you're in college, or know someone who is, it's usually VERY easy to get legit OEM copies of the software from the bookstores there for like $5.

But yeah, Cheeseh's the man, the HAL alone they implemented in NT based systems is worth the upgrade, no more system crashes due to hardware conflicts, and the memory manager in 9x/ME I swear was written by a blind deaf dumb retarded one-armed 4 year old...

[Sandman[SA]]

If you can't get a better OS the win9X then you may want to get a memory management utility because win95, 98, 98se & me does not have one. Check out this site http://www.tweaknow.com/ramidle.html for ramidle le.

It's not the greatest thing in the world but I have found it very useful for freeing up un-used or wasted memory back when I still ran win98se and the LE version of ramidle is still free.