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whiteboy	Jul 22 2004, 06:10 AM Post #121
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22-July 04 Member No.: 358	hey, umm sorry too sound like a prick on my first post but ive been using rcbot for a while now and well they dont do much some examples below: 1 ) the aliens half of the time just sit there at spawn (yes i have waypoints and in a squad) 2 ) the skulks never try and bite me they just follow me and occasionally parasite me always keeping about a metre away 3 ) the marines cant aim unless an alien walks in a straight line directly infront of them otherwise they just turn VERY slowly and by the time theyve turned around too face me theyre dead because i healsprayed them too death or something lol 4 ) i play a lot vs bots and ive yet too die as a marine(no joke), have died as alien though a few times well at least the gorges pose some sort of a challenge and i have waypoints so thats not the problem ive even tried using rcbot for marines and whichbot for aliens but rcbot gets slaughtered so bad its beyond funny

LordSkitch

Jul 22 2004, 06:19 AM

Post #122

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QUOTE (whiteboy @ Jul 22 2004, 06:10 AM)

1 ) the aliens half of the time just sit there at spawn (yes i have waypoints and in a squad)

The only reason the bots will sit at the spawn is there isnt a conected pathway to their destination, or the bots are in a squad with a leader that has no current task, so they all sit near the bot leader. (you can remove the bot squads in the rcbot squad_menu menu)

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2 ) the skulks never try and bite me they just follow me and occasionally parasite me always keeping about a metre away

Remove or modify the bot_weapons.ini file to change how parasite works (make it have a larger minimum range, and give bite a larger max range)

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3 ) the marines cant aim unless an alien walks in a straight line directly infront of them otherwise they just turn VERY slowly and by the time theyve turned around too face me theyre dead because i healsprayed them too death or something lol

Edit the bots' skills in their respective bot profiles.. for instance

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aim_skill=1
aim_time=0.01
aim_speed=18

Makes them rather hard to beat.

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4 ) i play a lot vs bots and ive yet too die as a marine(no joke), have died as alien though a few times

If you really want to play against working bots, try me or Sandy's server,

his is located at:
killerz.dns2go.com:27016
for NS 2.x

and mine is located at:
www.the-coming.com:27015
for NS 3 b4a

Sandman[SA]

Jul 22 2004, 06:42 AM

Post #123

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QUOTE (LordSkitch @ Jul 22 2004, 06:19 AM)

If you really want to play against working bots, try me or Sandy's server

Damn devilish little basterds rcbots are.

They like to either camp right outside your base as fade or randomly attack electirfied res as lerk.

And let me tell you. Rcbot onos or fade will own you if you try to go toe to toe with them.

whiteboy

Jul 22 2004, 08:11 AM

Post #124

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QUOTE (LordSkitch @ Jul 22 2004, 06:19 AM)

QUOTE (whiteboy @ Jul 22 2004, 06:10 AM)

1 ) the aliens half of the time just sit there at spawn (yes i have waypoints and in a squad)

The only reason the bots will sit at the spawn is there isnt a conected pathway to their destination, or the bots are in a squad with a leader that has no current task, so they all sit near the bot leader. (you can remove the bot squads in the rcbot squad_menu menu)

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2 ) the skulks never try and bite me they just follow me and occasionally parasite me always keeping about a metre away

Remove or modify the bot_weapons.ini file to change how parasite works (make it have a larger minimum range, and give bite a larger max range)

QUOTE

3 ) the marines cant aim unless an alien walks in a straight line directly infront of them otherwise they just turn VERY slowly and by the time theyve turned around too face me theyre dead because i healsprayed them too death or something lol

Edit the bots' skills in their respective bot profiles.. for instance

CODE

aim_skill=1
aim_time=0.01
aim_speed=18

Makes them rather hard to beat.

QUOTE

4 ) i play a lot vs bots and ive yet too die as a marine(no joke), have died as alien though a few times

If you really want to play against working bots, try me or Sandy's server,

his is located at:
killerz.dns2go.com:27016
for NS 2.x

and mine is located at:
www.the-coming.com:27015
for NS 3 b4a

thanks heaps man im gonna go try it out now ill post back tommorow say how it went

i live in australia so i cant play on them servers (56k + overseas =

)

Gruuunt	Jul 22 2004, 08:42 AM Post #125
Advanced Moron Group: Waypointers Posts: 286 Joined: 21-December 03 From: Droitwich Spa, Worcestershire, Uk Member No.: 143	Try mine in the UK: 82.68.100.90:27016 - Gruuunts Bot Server. I have loads of players from Australia and Japan, and I run both RcBot and Whichbot using Waypoints from this site and my own contributions... It's nearly always in the top 40 servers in the world for NSP @ http://www.serverspy.net

whiteboy	Jul 22 2004, 08:49 AM Post #126
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22-July 04 Member No.: 358	just a follow up on what u suggested i edit and well i had a quick 15 min game and 1 skulk got a kill used teeth and i had 58 kills 0 deaths so yea wasnt any different except parasiting has cut back a bit :S

link2002	Jul 22 2004, 02:33 PM Post #127
RCBot Fan Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Brazil Member No.: 231	The aliens are very worst now, see the demo for more details. http://link2003.vila.bol.com.br/alien.zip http://www.link2003.hpg.com.br/alien.dem (right click save as)

Cheeseh

Jul 22 2004, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE (link2002 @ Jul 22 2004, 02:33 PM)

The aliens are very worst now, see the demo for more details.

http://link2003.vila.bol.com.br/alien.zip
http://www.link2003.hpg.com.br/alien.dem

(right click save as)

I wonder why, 4 level 10 marines with HMG and heavy armour camping the alien spawn while aliens only have lerks and gorges.

LordSkitch	Jul 22 2004, 04:04 PM Post #129
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	You guys must have some jacked up settings set up, if you tried to do that on my server, the bots would toss your salad...

LordSkitch	Jul 23 2004, 06:59 AM Post #130
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	My crap's not even listed on ServerSpy. ::kicks serverspy::

Cheeseh	Jul 23 2004, 12:04 PM Post #131
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1	yea I always have to add it to get a peek at it I use ASE, it doesn't show up

link2002	Jul 24 2004, 01:11 PM Post #132
RCBot Fan Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Brazil Member No.: 231	what this bot is doing?: http://link2003.vila.bol.com.br/bot.dem

LordSkitch	Jul 24 2004, 03:30 PM Post #133
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	Dunno, it made my NS crash... what map is it?

Cheeseh

Jul 24 2004, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE (LordSkitch @ Jul 24 2004, 03:30 PM)

Dunno, it made my NS crash... what map is it?

same here, i'm guessing we don't have the map

link2002	Jul 24 2004, 04:57 PM Post #135
RCBot Fan Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Brazil Member No.: 231	ns_eclipse

LordSkitch	Jul 24 2004, 06:50 PM Post #136
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	I guess the demo's fubar then...

link2002	Jul 24 2004, 07:37 PM Post #137
RCBot Fan Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Brazil Member No.: 231	the bot.dem size is 173 KB (177.837 bytes), 180.224 used here is another demo, this show one bot trying to use the jetpack in me (i eat him): http://link2003.vila.bol.com.br/jet.zip (right click save as) this .zip size is 172 KB (176.578 bytes), 180.224 used (if this demo dont work too, i will make one page at my site whit them, i think you need to access it directly) EDIT2: no bot try to kill one single eletrified rt, only gorges try, but them die zapped. EDIT: i tested the bot.dem and don't worked, this is what is in the demo: This post has been edited by link2002: Jul 24 2004, 09:42 PM Attached image(s)

LordSkitch	Jul 24 2004, 11:05 PM Post #138
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	It's funny when the bots use the JP when you eat them.. As for the bot running around the arms lab, what I imagine happened is the arms lab was placed directly on a waypoint that a bot was trying to get to, and it kept running towards it, never actually getting to the waypoint.

Cheeseh	Jul 25 2004, 12:29 AM Post #139
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1	Arf.. I found a bug in the bots scheduling, if you have access to the source have a look in CBotTask::SetTimeToComplete() and you'll see what i mean ... The time should be added to the current time. This bug caused some bot schedules not to be initiated never mind completed (Including tasks such as hive building, completly building alien structures after deploying them etc.) all of which I added ages ago but never worked because of this bug... Of course i'll fix it for a next release on Beta. I'm hoping it makes the bots a lot better incase you're curios, this bug made these schedules impossible: -gorges thinking about building resource towers -gorges thinking about building hives -gorges thinking about building structures -gorges refilling a strcture they built so it gets full health -running for cover

link2002

Jul 25 2004, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE (Cheeseh @ Jul 24 2004, 09:29 PM)

Arf.. I found a bug in the bots scheduling, if you have access to the source have a look in CBotTask::SetTimeToComplete() and you'll see what i mean

...

The time should be added to the current time. This bug caused some bot schedules not to be initiated never mind completed (Including tasks such as hive building, completly building alien structures after deploying them etc.) all of which I added ages ago but never worked because of this bug...

Of course i'll fix it for a next release on Beta.

I'm hoping it makes the bots a lot better

incase you're curios, this bug made these schedules impossible:

-gorges thinking about building resource towers
-gorges thinking about building hives
-gorges thinking about building structures
-gorges refilling a strcture they built so it gets full health
-running for cover

this is why the gorge only heal the hive to 80%... (i think) or this is coded?

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