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[Gruuunt]

Alien Tower Doo - doos on the floor?

[Sandman[SA]]

I have noticed the ladder climbing bug is still screewy. It's just very strange the way the bots are handling ladders. If you watch them as a 3rd person, they are moving directly strait into the ladder. You can plainly see that there models are not looking up or down. If you watch them in 1st person spectator, they are spinning very fast while looking up. If you can get under a bot that is stuck on a ladder and push up, it's model turns to look strait at you and moves up the ladder backward but slowly. I have tried every waypointing trick I could come up with and the best I can get is get the bot stuck in the middle of the ladder rather then stuck on either end.

Also, the dreeded lift bug where the bots can use any lift to go down but not up. They stand at the bottom of the lift at the waypoint that it's path go's up and spin. And they NEVER use the lift button waypoint on the first pass.

Alien and marine alike can use "wall stick" waypoints well enough, that's fine. Although, sometimes the path for "wall stick" is great for skulk, can be a little to complex for faster moving flyers like JP and lerk. The "wall stick" and "fly" waypoints need to be seperated and only the class it was ment for should use them.

I'm still using the hpb_bot beta 1.38 because I only play ns 3.0b4a. These are the top three major problems that I feel still need to be addressed.

[LordSkitch]

Almost all of my ladders are working, the lifts are completely out, they're just too complex for bots to navigate... But whenever someone tells me a ladder isn't working, I go fix it, and it's about 85% reliable.. they still go up them slow though...

[Gruuunt]

Same for me with Ladders although I try to use Skitchies patented method where I can.

Btw:

Found this list of impulses somewhere on the web. Maybe help with development of command chair bots, (maybe not as you also need responses, eg empty res ports etc?)

- 1 Next weapon
- 2 Marine - Reload
- 3 Marine - Drop Weapon
4
5
- 6 Marine - Eject Commander
- 7 Voice - Chuckle / Follow me!
- 8 Voice - Need healing / Covering
- 9 Voice - Taunt / Taunt
- 10 Voice - Medpack
- 11 Voice - Need ammo
- 12 Voice - In position
- 13 Voice - Enemy hear
- 14 Voice - Lets move out
- 15 Voice - All clear
16
17
18
19
- 20 Commander/CO - Research Armor #1
- 21 Commander/CO - Research Armor #2
- 22 Commander/CO - Research Armor #3
- 23 Commander/CO - Research Weapons #1
- 24 Commander/CO - Research Weapons #2
- 25 Commander/CO - Research Weapons #3
- 26 Commander - Upgrade TF
- 27 Commander/CO - Drop Catalyst Pack
- 28 Commander - Research Jet-Packs
- 29 Commander - Research Heavey Armor
- 30 Commander - Distress Becon
- 31 CO - Resupply
32
- 33 Commander/CO - Research Motion Tracking
- 34 Commander - Research Phase Tech
35
- 36 Commander - Research Electrical Defense
- 37 Commander/CO - Research Grenades
- 38 Commander/CO - Drop Heavey Armor
- 39 Commander/CO - Drop Jet-Pack
- 40 Commander - Deploy IP
- 41 Commander - Deploy RT
42
- 43 Commander - Deploy TF
44
- 45 Commander - Deploy Arms Lab
- 46 Commander - Deploy Prototype Lab
- 47 Commander - Research Catalysts
- 48 Commander - Deploy armory
- 49 Commander - Upgrade armory
50
- 51 Commander - Deploy Observatory
52
- 53 Commander/CO - Scanner Sweap
54
- 55 Commander - Deploy Phase Gate
- 56 Commander - Deploy Turret
- 57 Commander - Deploy Siege Turret
- 58 Commander - Deploy CC
- 59 Commander - Drop Health Kit
- 60 Commander - Drop Ammo Pack
- 61 Commander/CO - Drop Mine Pack
- 62 Commander/CO - Drop Welder
63
- 64 Commander/CO - Drop Shotgun
- 65 Commander/CO - Drop HMG
- 66 Commander/CO - Drop Grenade Launcher
67
68
- 69 Commander - Recycle
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
- 80 Voice - None / Need Orders
- 81 Voice - None / Acknowledged
- 82 Command Chair - in use
- 83 Command Chair - click to view
- 84 Command Chair - scrolling view
85
86
87
88
89
- 90 Build - RT
- 91 Build - OC
- 92 Build - DC
- 93 Build - SC
- 94 Build - MC
- 95 Build - Hive
- 96 Commander - Change build tab
97
98
99
100
- 101 Evolve/CO - Carapace
- 102 Evolve/CO - Regeneration
- 103 Evolve/CO - Redemption
104
105
106
- 107 Evolve/CO - Celerity
- 108 Evolve/CO - Adrenaline
- 109 Evolve/CO - Silence
- 110 Evolve/CO - Cloaking
- 111 Evolve/CO - Focus
- 112 Evolve/CO - Sense of Fear
- 113 Gestate - Skull
- 114 Gestate - Gorg
- 115 Gestate - Lerk
- 116 Gestate - Fade
- 117 Gestate - Onos
- 118 CO - Unlock next ability 1 (alien)
- 119 Alien - Leap
- 120 Alien - Blink
121
- 122 Alien - Charge
123
124
125
- 126 CO - Unlock next ability 2 (alien)

[LordSkitch]

You crafty brit you. Gotta stick that in a file somewhere so I don't lose it!

[Cheeseh]

have you ever tried those impulses? The command chair ones never work

[Sandman[SA]]

Cheeseh, are you trying to tell us that the NS dev team still won't give you the official impulse command list?

[Cheeseh]

That is the only impulse list (?) . Even I try these myself and they don't work in the command console

[LordSkitch]

It might take more inputs or something, like xyz coords or something.. maybe you can spawn them using cheats.. I'm gonna go freak people out on my server and try real quick

[Gruuunt]

I did a search on the web and someone called P R Searle mentions a NS SDK

[LordSkitch]

Oh yeah, the cheat thing didnt work.

[Cheeseh]

[Gruuunt]

Wot - the SDK is? You have seen before? I would have thought this is the place to find the impulse's and operations. I've never seen it but when it mentioned AvHMessage.h it sounded like this was ns programming, was hoping this may have helped and you could perhaps have gotten the SDK from PR Searle - oh well
(I wasn't refering to the web article but the reference to the SDK)

JUst call me a waste of time

[Cheeseh]

I mean, there is no hope

[Gruuunt]

Any chance we could see a Linux dll at some time?

I'm trying to convert to that platform and for whatever reason I can get Whichbot to run in Mandrake 10.1 Final Linux but not RcBot metamod from the 1.3 distribution, which just gives me a badf load and I am pretty sure that its not a file location error. I seem to recall that it wouldnt work and the beta dll was the only way to run beta 5.

Any Linux gurus know how to compile - pretty please

[LordSkitch]

[thrustmaster]

So is this thing dead or what?

[Sandman[SA]]

Yeah, pretty much. At least for a while anyway.

[MarD]

Heyyo,

Cheesh, have you ever tried e-mailing them to give support to impulses to fakeclients (your bots)? I'm sure they'd cooperate since RCbot's great!

I remember and old test of yours.. they built stuff but not very well.. so did the impulses work before and only now are failing? Just curious is all..

Well, if they don't have good bot support for NS Marine bots command now.. let's hope they put it in for NS:Source..

[LordSkitch]

He's tried to get them to put in impulses and such to make it so the bots could command, and they said no. Cause they're asses. The old way they did it was hacked in and left stuff in RAM and could crash the server. Thats why it was removed.