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[LordSkitch]

Are you gonna make the move to steam upon the next non-beta of NS?

[Sandman[SA]]

[Flash24]

[Cheeseh]

jesus christ, I read it and added it in my code yesterday just not released the dll as beta yet!!! I am more interested in correcting crashes.

[LordSkitch]

Hehe, Cheeseh's got his priorities in the right spot.

But damn...

[Gruuunt]

Anybody else using AMX-X?
I have disabled mine and the Crashes have reduced drastically to 1 or 2 a day now.
As you all probably know, my server runs Rcbot and Whichbot, but I eliminated the frequent server crashes, by running for a day or so with just one on its own ( Pretty Unpopular!)
I have now re-activated other metamod plugins such as marine blood etc and they dont appear to be contributing to to the instability.

Also as a matter of interest, the crashes don't appear to be instigated when the server is playing Regular NS, only when Combat maps are active.

And as a final note, the main instability is on my standalone - HLDS dedicated server machine, this is used for the public. The machine I use for waypointing is using the standard Steam dedicated server started from the Steam games panel and that can run continuous, for 2 to 3 days play testing rine vs Alien, with not as much as a hiccup...

Hope this is of some use Cheeseh

[LordSkitch]

[Cheeseh]

A lot of plugins anyway = lag and crash prone like hell. I've seen some ppl run 20 plugins or so, way to many. They gotta remember theyre playing a game with all these plugins trying to run ALL of their available code per frame. Game srequire all the help they can get for smooth gameplay so it's completly interactive and not a slideshow!

One bot (I mean one bot from a bot DLL) is practically equivalent to one plugin (has to run through all ones bot code once a frame).

For argument sake, my bot doesn't think its whole code out every frame, it does it every 0.04 seconds typically and even then it won't hit as many if statements as other bots would, as it uses tasks (does code for its current task ONLY and doesn't check for other tasks it can do) and somewhat concurrent visible entity finding and pathfinding. That's why my bots is quite good on the CPU

[Sandman[SA]]

I have a pretty good list of plugins running on my NS 2.01 server that seem to run very well, even with bots. For that list, check out the first post at this topic.

NS 2.0 Servers running rcbot, Who has them & what are you running?

As for the default maps, the server seems to be about 99% stable. Very rarely does it ever crash on those maps but on non default maps such as ns_siege007, crashes seem to happen about 1 out of 3 times playing.

[Cheeseh]

Remember that all AMX plugins are scripts, that will run probably 10x slower than metamod plugins, since it takes 10 instructuions to effectivly carry out one instruction in script. (effectively turning a 2ghz machine into 200 mhz! ). Sure scripting is good for usability but running too many on a network game is pushing it really.

[LordSkitch]

I got 2 plugins under AMX running I think.. a thing to fix the waypoints into something intelligible, instead of "proceed to waypoint", and the other is a gateway for setting up passwords on my stats pages. If theres anything else running, I don't know about it, which is more than likely lol

[Cheeseh]

I updated the dll, see first post


I added that steam id thing in bot users, and some more command help stuff.

[Flash24]

hum cheeseh u cant add one command style "rcbot reloadlist"

or wenever for refresh list of bot_users.ini


i try restart server with cmd "restart"
but for reloading list i closed my serv and reopen :|


so good work

[BadLife]

Todays dll blew up after 15 seconds I know this won't help much but this is what it said

HL caused an invalid page fault in
module HPB_BOT.DLL at 01af:0d1db106.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=01af EIP=0d1db106 EFLGS=00210202
EBX=00000000 SS=01b7 ESP=04678280 EBP=046782d0
ECX=0d2c68f0 DS=01b7 ESI=00000002 FS=0ebf
EDX=0d2c68f0 ES=01b7 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 88 24 02 00 00 81 e1 00 20 00 00 85 c9 74 02
Stack dump:
00000000 00000002 00000000 00000002 00000000 00000000 00010001 00000002 0d317278 ffffffff 00000008 0d3f0034 00000040 1fffffff 00000007 80000000

Is the link provided to the by link2002 for this version if not which one is it as I have been keeping all the old versions. I might be able to get more info If I can remember how to use MVC++ of course I will have to install it as I did not get around to that the last time my main system went south

[Cheeseh]

jeez, yours alwasy dies so quick, I have to wait forever before it crashes on me, I gotta install all those plugins you are running or something..

Flash, I'll add something like that soon too..

[LordSkitch]

I think mines died once so far, hasn't been jerkin me around too much...

of course.. lol oh man, alright, I shut down my server, and started it back up, and for like 20 or 30 minutes I was tryin to get the new steam ID stuff to work... freaking the hell out, "WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!?" then I realized I didn't put in the new DLL... yeah I'm retarded... but in my defense, I hadn't slept at all that day, and haven't slept good for the past two weeks!

[Flash24]

thx cheeseh

[Cheeseh]

updated latest dll again, see first post

[Flash24]

good job again cheeseh and continu that

but

wath is wrong with that on my bot_users.ini

"" * 31 STEAM_0:0:1374557
"" * 31 STEAM_0:0:259543
"" * 31 STEAM_0:0:3429445



rcbot addbot 1
[RCBOT>] You do not have access to this command.

pls help me

[LordSkitch]

"" * 31 STEAM_0:0:2551022

That's mine and it seems to work fine... as far as I know, you STILL need to send the server a password, it just doesn't matter what it is..

rcbot set_pass blah
rcbot set_pass flashespassword
rcbot set_pass spoot

they all work for me, it authorizes me and lets me do whatever.

And come to think of it, it's crashed it a few more times, and I don't have the foggiest idea of whats causing it.. seems to be at the end of maps... so lemme know when you get the source ready Cheeseh, and I'll reinstall visual studio on my server and try and catch the crash for ya.