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fortnox
post Nov 7 2004, 11:09 AM
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ok, i installed it as the "Official Steam RCBot Install Guide, for NS beta4 and beta5" said, using metamod, but it says invalid command when i enter any of theese:
addbot
rcbot addbot
meta
meta list

my liblist.gam is
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// Natural Selection      //
//  by Charlie Cleveland //
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game "Natural Selection (beta 5)"
url_info "www.natural-selection.org"
url_dl "http://www.natural-selection.org/"
version "v3.0"
size "165000000"
svonly "0"
secure "0"
cldll "cl_dlls\client.dll"
hlversion "1110"
// How to allow training but disable "New game"?
type "multiplayer_only"
// Don't show models in browser
nomodels "1"
nohimodel "1"
// Only show NS-compliant maps
mpentity "info_mapinfo"
// Using HPB_bot support for now
gamedll "dlls\ns.dll"
gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"
gamedll "addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll"
// Training map
//trainmap "ns_training"

and my plugin.ini (is that sposed to still say text doc on the file type?)
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win32 ..\rcbot\dlls\rcbot_mm.dll

i did everything, even downloaded the newest metamod DLL, but i think its metamod that isnt working, rarther than rcbot, because meta cmd dosent work. pls help
*edit* and btw, i use windows
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post Nov 7 2004, 12:12 PM
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Well.. fer starters, you got three gamedll's...

Comment out
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gamedll "dlls\ns.dll"
gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"


those two lines by putting // in front of it, like this
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//gamedll "dlls\ns.dll"
//gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"
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post Nov 7 2004, 09:00 PM
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thx, but didnt work. what happened was that, when i start a server, nothing happens. htatsthe first time tho, the second time it will crash.
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post Nov 8 2004, 12:11 AM
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Whats yer liblist.gam look like now?
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post Nov 8 2004, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE (fortnox @ Nov 7 2004, 11:09 AM)
and my plugin.ini (is that sposed to still say text doc on the file type?

No. When you create the "New Text Document.txt", you need to right click on it and select "Rename" from the drop down menu and rename the file "plugins.ini". Anything short of just "plugins.ini" is wrong. When you do this, windows should display a rename prompt saying something about changing the file extention and if you would like to continue.

The icon displaying your newly named file will change from what looks like a notepad to what looks like a notepad with a yellow cog on the side.
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post Nov 8 2004, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (Sandman[SA] @ Nov 8 2004, 01:37 AM)
No. When you create the "New Text Document.txt", you need to right click on it and select "Rename" from the drop down menu and rename the file "plugins.ini". Anything short of just "plugins.ini" is wrong. When you do this, windows should display a rename prompt saying something about changing the file extention and if you would like to continue.

The icon displaying your newly named file will change from what looks like a notepad to what looks like a notepad with a yellow cog on the side.

Actually, all of that is dependant on how you set it up.. You could make a .ini file have the description of.. "Bob Dole's Fantastic Configuration and Initialization Routine File" with Bob Dole's face as the little icon..

But if it's not working right, and what fits the description is, you're not displaying the full file extensions, so that file is actually named
plugins.ini.txt
and it's not being seen.. so what you need to check is on a windows explorer window, go to..

Tools -> Folder Options
Click the View tab
Find the "Hide extensions for known file types" checkbox
Make sure it's UNCHECKED
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post Nov 8 2004, 09:12 AM
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aha, thx, it turned it into a .ini, and the icon changed to have a cog. but, the same thing still happend in NS. the first time i opn a server nothing happens, the 2nd time it crashes. (BTW, will it make any difference if i open a lan server??)
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:28 AM
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It should make no difference weather your using lan or dedicated servers. Was does matter is that all the files are where they need to be and if your liblist.gam file has been edited properly. Please post a copy of your current liblist.gam file contents.
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:18 PM
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sure, here it is
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////////////////////////////
// Natural Selection      //
//  by Charlie Cleveland //
////////////////////////////
game "Natural Selection (beta 5)"
url_info "www.natural-selection.org"
url_dl "http://www.natural-selection.org/"
version "v3.0"
size "165000000"
svonly "0"
secure "0"
cldll "cl_dlls\client.dll"
hlversion "1110"
// How to allow training but disable "New game"?
type "multiplayer_only"
// Don't show models in browser
nomodels "1"
nohimodel "1"
// Only show NS-compliant maps
mpentity "info_mapinfo"
// Using HPB_bot support for now
//gamedll "dlls\ns.dll"
//gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"
gamedll "addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll"
// Training map
//trainmap "ns_training"
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post Nov 9 2004, 11:35 PM
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Ok, it appears that you have successfully edited your liblist.gam file correctly. Now, in an earlyer post, you said that your plugins.ini contained the line...
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win32 ..\rcbot\dlls\rcbot_mm.dll

This is incorrect. Your plugins.ini file should contain a line that looks like this....
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win32 ../rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll


Notice how I changed the back slash for a farward slash? The rcbot_mm.dll is also only for rcbot 1.3 and the very latest 1.38 beta. The earlyer rcbot beta's were named hpb_bot.dll. Make sure your trying to load the right rcbot.dll.
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post Nov 10 2004, 06:45 PM
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k, changed that, but made no difference. still crashes when i start.
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post Nov 10 2004, 11:24 PM
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Ok, can you be a little more spacific about the crash?

When does the crash happen?
1) on server startup?
2) after server startup
3) when you pick up a weapon or die on ns classic?

If the answer is either #2 or #3 then you may have the wrong metamod version. NS 3.0 beta5 demands MM 1.17.2.p10 or higher. If the answer is #1 then you may have a dll file and/or folder out of place. Namely metamod or rcbot or both.
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post Nov 11 2004, 12:08 PM
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well, its weird, first time i open a server, it goes to the menu, and nothing happens. the second time, it loads 1 bar, then freezes, stops responding. btw, the http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/in...l=metamod&st=45
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post Nov 12 2004, 01:32 AM
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Ok, lets start from scratch.

Step1. Edit the liblist.gam file and coment out metamod and remove the coment from the ns.dll. A coment is the dubble farward slash at the start is the line. Start the listenserver and run around on any map for a minute or 2. If you can load and play NS, procede to step 2. If not, reinstall NS.

Step2. Edit the liblist.gam and reverse the last changes made from step 1. This time, your also going to edit the plugins.ini by comenting out ANY plugins with-in the list. Start your listenserver again. If it runs, open the console and type: meta list. If metamod does respond, procede to step 3. If your listenserver crashes, check the location of your metamod.dll placement again. It should be: /half-life/ns/addons/metamod/dlls/metamod.dll.

Step3. Edit your plugins.ini once more by un-doing what we did to it in step 2. Start the listensever again. If it runs, open the console and type: meta list. Rcbot should list as status - RUN. If rcbot failed to load or the listenserver crashes now then check the rcbot folder for /half-life/rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll.


Please let me know what you find.
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post Nov 12 2004, 01:48 AM
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You could solve a lot of problems by not running it as a listen server wink.gif
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post Nov 12 2004, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (Sandman[SA] @ Nov 12 2004, 01:32 AM)
Ok, lets start from scratch.

Step1. Edit the liblist.gam file and coment out metamod and remove the coment from the ns.dll. A coment is the dubble farward slash at the start is the line. Start the listenserver and run around on any map for a minute or 2. If you can load and play NS, procede to step 2. If not, reinstall NS.

Step2. Edit the liblist.gam and reverse the last changes made from step 1. This time, your also going to edit the plugins.ini by comenting out ANY plugins with-in the list. Start your listenserver again. If it runs, open the console and type: meta list. If metamod does respond, procede to step 3. If your listenserver crashes, check the location of your metamod.dll placement again. It should be: /half-life/ns/addons/metamod/dlls/metamod.dll.

Step3. Edit your plugins.ini once more by un-doing what we did to it in step 2. Start the listensever again. If it runs, open the console and type: meta list. Rcbot should list as status - RUN. If rcbot failed to load or the listenserver crashes now then check the rcbot folder for /half-life/rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll.


Please let me know what you find.

step one went smoothly, it worked fine, but with step 2, dashing out the other gamedlls and undashing meta mod dll, crash prob again. but also, before it crashes, it says "starting local game server" dosent that mean that its a lan game? i un-checked lan. it was definitly sposed to be internet.
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You could solve a lot of problems by not running it as a listen server 

sorry, whats a listen server? is it a dedicated server, a net server, a lan server, what?
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post Nov 12 2004, 05:29 PM
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download this file: http://www.upload4free.com/files/30332.zip

extract it to your half-life folder and overwrite everything

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post Nov 12 2004, 11:59 PM
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says the file is forbidden

*edit* damn, i downloaded the file, replaced everything, but the same thing still happens. first server nothing happens, second one crash
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