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Gamjo
post May 30 2005, 08:24 AM
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Topic says it all!

Every time I go to add a bot, NS crashes or my dedicated server crashes. Sometimes I can get one or two in a server but then I try to add another and it crashes my game.

Ive tried using metamod dll obviously with metamod installed and also tried using the non metamod dll both while doing the "Create Server" option in NS.

Tried using the metamod dll and also tried using the non metamod dll both while running a dedicated server. On my dedicated server im also running Adminmod if thats going to cause troubles.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!
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Cheeseh
post May 30 2005, 11:59 AM
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Do you have other plugins running that dont like the bots ? Sandman might be able to help with that, there are a few threads located around the forums about that sort of thing. Maybe check your server log, or rcbot_crashlog.txt if it is there on hl folder.
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Gamjo
post May 30 2005, 06:29 PM
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Neh, dont have any other plugins running. I installed a fresh copy of HLDS and also Adminmod and then just updated metamod. Ill go check if there is a crash log.
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mkl
post May 30 2005, 09:02 PM
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I've got the exact same problem here too! I tried looking for a crash log but there is none. I'm using METAMOD 1.17.4.0 with RCBOT BETA 1.4

I don't think its metamod's problem because I ran both game and dedicated server with rcbot directly and it still crashes. Any help please? biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2005, 12:24 AM
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Gamjo, I need to know the metamod, adminmod and rcbot versions your trying to run. Also, if both Gamjo and mkl can post copies of thier liblist.gam and metamod/plugins.ini, it could prove helpful.
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post May 31 2005, 01:30 AM
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I just loaded the new dlls and 2secs after the first bot loads into the game the server crashed. The same setup was used without issue for the pervious ver.
Metamod v1.17.4
AMX Mod X v1.01
The new RCBot dlls.
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post May 31 2005, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE (Sandman[SA] @ May 31 2005, 12:24 AM)
Gamjo, I need to know the metamod, adminmod and rcbot versions your trying to run. Also, if both Gamjo and mkl can post copies of thier liblist.gam and metamod/plugins.ini, it could prove helpful.

Was using metamod with rcbot, but now just rcbot only just to test so my liblist.gam:

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// Natural Selection      //
//   by Charlie Cleveland //
////////////////////////////
game "Natural Selection"
url_info "www.natural-selection.org"
url_dl "http://www.natural-selection.org/"
version "v3.0"
size "165000000"
svonly "0"
secure "0"
cldll "cl_dlls\client.dll"
hlversion "1110"
// How to allow training but disable "New game"?
type "multiplayer_only"
// Don't show models in browser
nomodels "1"
nohimodel "1"
// Only show NS-compliant maps
mpentity "info_mapinfo"
// Using HPB_bot support for now
gamedll "..\rcbot\dlls\rcbot.dll"
gamedll_linux "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod_i386.so"
// Training map
//trainmap "ns_training"


this still crashes btw, so its nothing to do with metamod..
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post May 31 2005, 06:08 AM
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I know windows normally overlooks linux files but just humor me and comment out the linux gamedll line. Rcbot has been proven to fail to load or just crash HL to desktop with multiable gamedll lines.
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post May 31 2005, 06:34 AM
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If that don't work, try changing

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gamedll "..\rcbot\dlls\rcbot.dll"

to
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gamedll "../rcbot/dlls/rcbot.dll"
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post May 31 2005, 07:07 AM
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tried both things, so doesn't work. I'm moving back to metamod

here are my metamod configurations (still doesnt work btw)

plugins.ini:

CODE
win32 ../rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll


changed liblist.gam:

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// Natural Selection      //
//   by Charlie Cleveland //
////////////////////////////
game "Natural Selection"
url_info "www.natural-selection.org"
url_dl "http://www.natural-selection.org/"
version "v3.0"
size "165000000"
svonly "0"
secure "0"
cldll "cl_dlls\client.dll"
hlversion "1110"
// How to allow training but disable "New game"?
type "multiplayer_only"
// Don't show models in browser
nomodels "1"
nohimodel "1"
// Only show NS-compliant maps
mpentity "info_mapinfo"
// Using HPB_bot support for now
gamedll "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod.dll"
//gamedll_linux "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod_i386.so"
// Training map
//trainmap "ns_training"
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post May 31 2005, 12:27 PM
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Cheeseh, Sandman[SA], and LordSkitch are you guys running the bot with the new dlls without issue?
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post May 31 2005, 01:24 PM
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we get no problems as i always test the bot, i wouldnt release if it didn't work. Skitchy & sandman runs 24/7 servers with the bots tongue.gif

I don't know what the problem is except that you've got the bot installed to the wrong folder, and it can't find the rcbot dll file. That's all that would crash HL under these circumstances.
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post May 31 2005, 03:05 PM
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Have you changed in anyway how the dll files are found or any of the files for that matter since the last version because when I changed the files all I switched was the dll files and it was work with the old ones just fine.
My file struct is:
HLServer/rcbot/dlls/rcbot.dll
HLServer/rcbot/dlls/rcbot_mm.dll
HLServer/ns/addons/metamod/plugins.ini
with rcbot having the same file stuct as the zip.
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post May 31 2005, 07:52 PM
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oh actually.

If you are running the bot ok but only crashes when you add bots (mis-read the topic :S)

Try deleting:

all .rcr files (rcbot/botprofiles)
all .brn files (rcbot/botprofiles)
player_ids.ini (rcbot)

as i said read rcbot_crashlog.txt
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post May 31 2005, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Cheeseh @ May 31 2005, 07:52 PM)
oh actually.

If you are running the bot ok but only crashes when you add bots (mis-read the topic :S)

Try deleting:

all .rcr files (rcbot/botprofiles)
all .brn files (rcbot/botprofiles)
player_ids.ini (rcbot)

as i said read rcbot_crashlog.txt

Deleted all the .rcr files and .brn files, couldnt find the player_ids.ini

yeah still the same thing, it loads up and I see bots joining but after 3-5 seconds it crashes. Same for HLDS, the server starts in console I see people joining then, crash.

Also there is no rcbot_crashlog.txt sad.gif

And also what Mad_Scientist said, If i replace the new DLLs with the old 1.3 versions, it doesn't crash.
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post Jun 1 2005, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE (Cheeseh @ May 31 2005, 01:24 PM)
we get no problems as i always test the bot, i wouldnt release if it didn't work. Skitchy & sandman runs 24/7 servers with the bots tongue.gif

Ummm, sorry sir. I'm only using rcbot's on special combat maps and I haven't yet updated to the very latest patch. But as of lately, i've only been running whichbots because I love those hyper fast super fades and near unstopable lerks. tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2005, 02:40 AM
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so no solution to the crash? ohmy.gif
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post Jun 1 2005, 02:55 AM
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Do you have an rcbot_folder.ini file? If so, where did you install it to and what is it's contents?
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post Jun 1 2005, 03:14 AM
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yes i have that ini, contents is
CODE
rcbot/


my rcbot is installed at:

C:\Steam\SteamApps\xxx@xxx.com\dedicated server\rcbot

Also I checked event viewer the fault for crashing is:

CODE
Faulting application hlds.exe, version 4.1.1.1, faulting module rcbot_mm.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00031124.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


btw this happens in NON-dedicated too.

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one more thing, if i DONT add any bots it doesn't crash at all.
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post Jun 1 2005, 03:29 AM
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Make sure your server is up to date, I had the problem last night when I was setting up a test server, but fixed it by making sure all the files in the server were the latest versions.
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