 RCBot Crashing, ...or helping something to cause crashes |
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| LordSkitch |
 May 3 2004, 02:44 AM
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 I cuddle with my bots.  Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291  |
Damn. Everything looks pretty much the same... I don't use AMX mod though... I use AdminMod, does your server crash all the time? There might be some sort of conflict with AdminMod...
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| Sandman[SA] |
May 3 2004, 02:59 AM
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 RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19 |
My server has known to run for well over 100 hours without crashing at a time and I have logs to prove it. But on adverage, I get about 75 hours run time before it crashes. So no, it doesn't crash a lot.
I don't like using adminmod because it still has a lot of bugs in it. Notably one that strips or changes entities for no good reason and could cause your server to crash and another that leads to a pretty big security risk. Also, adminmod has a pile of custom plugins that conflict with bots. You may want to try stripping the adminmod plugins down to the bare minimum and see if that helps. |
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| Cheeseh |
May 3 2004, 11:40 AM
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 Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
might want to try downloading that rcbot metamod dll file I posted somewhere
 fixed a few crashes in it |
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| Sandman[SA] |
May 3 2004, 09:53 PM
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RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19 |
The file cheeseh mentioned can be found in this thread:
marine bots run around and do nothing, help, please |
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| Cheeseh |
May 3 2004, 11:11 PM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
I uploaded a later one on page 2 of the thread, make sure you get that one
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| Cheeseh |
May 3 2004, 11:14 PM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
by the way, that "createFakeClient failed" message is nowhere in my bot source.. it may be part of whichbot or the internal code of this function..
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| LordSkitch |
May 4 2004, 02:15 AM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Alrighty, I got the new DLL, and it's in place, we'll see if it fixes anything. As for the error, I flipped through some of my logs, and I haven't seen it happen again, so I dunno.
And as for the "not crashing often" part, I dunno if TFC is more stable by nature than NS, but I was talking in the 500 hours area. Looking at my server, I need to go get new waypoints for Veil... though I thought I already got Sandman's waypoints... maybe I'm retarded and never put em in the right folders. Alright, I'll get back to you guys! |
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| LordSkitch |
May 5 2004, 06:34 PM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Alright, I downloaded and used the
rcbot_mm.dll size: 332KB Modified: April 20, 2004 2:47:00 PM but I think the thing actually crashes more now. But! ...!!! I got my all my new Athlon 64 parts in, and I've gotta grind out parts of my case, and drill new holes and whatnot. And I think I might have to cut out the I/O shield, cause the one I have uses screws, and all the new ones are little snap-in plates... Either way, I'll be indesposed for a while working with metal, woo! |
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| Sandman[SA] |
May 5 2004, 09:07 PM
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RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19 |
Ummm, OK? Are you aware that with the AMD Athlon 64, you MUST run a 64bit compatable operating system? 32bit operating systems like win2k, wnixp home and winxp pro may work but your going to have a pile of problems. Microsoft does sell just such a beast called Windows XP 64 bit Edition which is a MUST if you have a 64 bit system. Also, just to add insult to injury, half-life, along with just about every other game out there is not 64bit compatable. But oh well, you live and you learn, right? |
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| LordSkitch |
May 6 2004, 07:05 AM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Hehe, no, its not a 64 bit only chip, it runs in 32bit mode, and performs on par with p4 3.2ghz EEs.
In fact, I'm runnin normal WinXP Pro SP1 now, just got done playin NS on my server, and ... it was kind of yummy to see my FPS never drop below 99 lol BUT! if you're wanting to run it in 64 bit mode, or.. if you want to run XP64 at all rather, you need either an Athlon 64 or a FX-5x chip to do it... I don't think Intel has any 64 bit chips out even... and it's rather insane, after playing like an hour and a half or 2 hours on my NS server, this chip is 4 degrees above ambient temp, 80F/27C |
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| LordSkitch |
May 9 2004, 07:49 AM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Alrighty, I switched to AMX-mod, and the crashing still hasn't stopped. I don't know whats wrong with the freakin thing, I'll be glad to format it.
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| Sandman[SA] |
May 9 2004, 11:06 AM
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RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19 |
Are you using an anti-flood plugins? If so, TURN THEM OFF.
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| Cheeseh |
May 9 2004, 11:16 AM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
don't even bother formatting, it won't help a thing.
The power of your power supply can actually help, but I'm sure the power you have is okay. You should give crash details everytime when it crashes, like you did in your first post. Although those crashes say that the game did NOT crash in rcbot but in NS or stuff caused by perhaps metamod plugins. ps the real test is to run RCbot on its own, not without it. |
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| LordSkitch |
May 9 2004, 06:36 PM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Good call Cheeseh, I'll do that this very minute. As for the crash information, I'll do that later, I gotta do mother's day stuff today!
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| LordSkitch |
May 11 2004, 04:04 AM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Alright, after two half-assed crashes, it just sorta hung there for 10 minutes unresponsive, I got an actual crash. Now this is with NS and RCBot only. The event logs this as the cause
I dunno if you need a stack trace or whatever from VC++, if thats the case I'll install visual studio on the server and see what I can get... |
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| Cheeseh |
May 11 2004, 12:59 PM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
bingo. now use this dll file (this is a debug file) and make metamod use this instead of rcbot_mm.dll (as it is a debug dll, I'm not sure if I change its name so it's name is HPB_Bot.dll instead...)
You might be able to get a stack trace from this dll, if not, at least try to get an "offset". (even better if you have Visual studio, I can also give you the source too  so you can find exact location of the crash) Attached File(s) 
HPB_bot.zip ( 197.55k )
Number of downloads: 132 |
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| LordSkitch |
May 12 2004, 09:21 PM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Heres the latest and greatest crash, again with only RCBot running
Ever since I formatted this machine, visual studio is one of the CDs I need that I actually have found  my room is a freakin' mess. But I haven't used VC++ in a while, so you'd have to tell me how to configure it to tell me where the problem in the code is. My forte is VB, and Windows applications thereon. One of these days I'm gonna make a front-end for RCBot to make administration centralized though! As soon as I stop being lazy... and figure out the binary stuff for reputations and whatnot  |
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| Cheeseh |
May 12 2004, 11:05 PM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
Actually that crash info inst very helpful  I need to know in mem where the dll starts so I can workout the offset from code in the dll file.
Tell you what, download the Rcbot source (I've just updated it) from the files page. When you install your visual C, compile the "Metamod Debug" version and use the HPB_Bot.dll it makes for attaching to metamod (instead of rcbot_mm.dll). Run HL as you do normally, if & when it crashes, click the "debug" button on the exception window, this will bring up VC and show the crappy code
I'm in the process of making a crappy frontend (install-uninstall-configure menus) by the way, heres my crappy frontend so far... it doesn't actually do anything, just windows are there and I've only done the "install" stuff, which doesn't actually install anything Attached File(s)
rcbotinstall.zip ( 29k )
Number of downloads: 149 |
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| LordSkitch |
May 12 2004, 11:59 PM
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I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291 |
Server just crashed again, ill do all that goodness you just told me to do, but I got some actual debug windows and crap happening this time, check this out.
(this is with all the plugins running too, so i dunno)    See if theres any useful crap in that, or if its just windows crapping all over itself again. and I pieced this together from ultima 8, and i thought it was cool, so you all get to see this too!  |
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| Cheeseh |
May 13 2004, 12:16 AM
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1 |
Unfortunately it isn't that useful
The code it crashed in is in library code. I need to get a stack trace. |
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