RCBot Metamod Beta Problem

RCBot Metamod Beta Problem, Crashes when game ends

Wildfire	Aug 1 2004, 03:51 AM Post #21
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	Hmmm.. maybe you were right, LordSkitch. It didnt crash at all when I disabled AM and WB, so it might have something to do with WhichBot. anyways, it might have just been that it didnt crash that time out of luck or something, I'll have to do more testing later.

LordSkitch	Aug 1 2004, 05:12 AM Post #22
I cuddle with my bots. Group: Moderator Posts: 980 Joined: 16-April 04 From: Alvin, Texas Member No.: 291	I've found whichbot to be more crashy than a... you know like.. a really drunk woman with a blind fold on driving a car the wrong way on the Audobahn. That's pretty freakin' crashy. No offense to the 7 women out there who can drive the right way.. or so I've seen from driving in Houston.. freakin' cellphones. Anyhow, I'm running adminmod version.. 2.50.59.0 I used to run RC and WB along side one another, but found out WB was causing a lot of my crashes, so now I run RC only, cause RC > ALL!!!!

Wildfire	Aug 3 2004, 02:46 PM Post #23
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	lol Well, Ill try it without WhichBot, see what happens. Thanks

Gruuunt	Aug 3 2004, 02:59 PM Post #24
Advanced Moron Group: Waypointers Posts: 286 Joined: 21-December 03 From: Droitwich Spa, Worcestershire, Uk Member No.: 143	up 48hrs now, using latest rcbot beta dll whichbot metamod 1.17.p9 or whatever it was ( I am conviced this is what fixed it) amx latest version (Not amxx) umpteen metamod plugins Only instability I can see is ns_lost seems dodgy (ending quickly) Has xmas come at last?

Sandman[SA]	Aug 4 2004, 03:05 AM Post #25
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	I think I have found some incompatable metamod plugins (while running bots) which could be one or all of the following. Note, these would be the latest releases that I know of. Audiotracker 2.0.0.0 Selfweld 1.2.4.0 Onosblocker 3.0.0.0 If you have any of these, try disabling them and restart your server.

Wildfire	Aug 5 2004, 12:27 AM Post #26
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	WhichBot disabled: Been up for more than 7 hours. But I like whichbot! WB Pwnz as aliens, and RCBot pwnz at Rines. I want them both

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Aug 6 2004, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE (LordSkitch @ Aug 1 2004, 05:12 AM)

I've found whichbot to be more crashy than a... you know like.. a really drunk woman with a blind fold on driving a car the wrong way on the Audobahn.

I think that's a pretty unfair assessment. When I run WhichBot with the latest rcbot_mm.dll, I don't have anything like the crashes I get when using this beta series. In fact, both seem to be pretty stable as long as they're run independently of one another. Most of the crashes seem to occur when bots are spawning/respawning. I should add, however, that I don't run a dedicated server online for hours on end, so I can't vouch for stability over numerous map changes.

QUOTE (Wildfire @ Aug 5 2004, 12:27 AM)

But I like whichbot! WB Pwnz as aliens, and RCBot pwnz at Rines.

I agree - which is why I'm still using the old rcbot_mm.dll (on the few occasions I get around to playing these days).

Edit: Missed this:

QUOTE (Gruuunt @ Aug 3 2004, 02:59 PM)

metamod 1.17.p9 or whatever it was ( I am conviced this is what fixed it)

I'll try that.

Gruuunt	Aug 6 2004, 08:48 AM Post #28
Advanced Moron Group: Waypointers Posts: 286 Joined: 21-December 03 From: Droitwich Spa, Worcestershire, Uk Member No.: 143	My server appears as stable as HLDS allows it to be. NO crashes as far as I am aware. Only time is when I bounce it to add metamod plugins etc. Will be interested to see a confirmation that it was the special metamod version that fixed it Catfish. Interestingly enough this metamod verrsion is Mod independant

Wildfire	Aug 6 2004, 02:34 PM Post #29
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	1.17.p9 ? All I found was 1.17.1 (Which Im using now) and 1.17

Gruuunt	Aug 6 2004, 02:38 PM Post #30
Advanced Moron Group: Waypointers Posts: 286 Joined: 21-December 03 From: Droitwich Spa, Worcestershire, Uk Member No.: 143	http://forums.unitedadmins.com/index.php?showtopic=39088 is where its at, soz!

Cheeseh	Aug 6 2004, 03:41 PM Post #31
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1	where is the source+license

Wildfire	Aug 6 2004, 06:16 PM Post #32
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	that Metamod 1.17.1p9 didnt help me

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Aug 6 2004, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE (Wildfire @ Aug 6 2004, 06:16 PM)

that Metamod 1.17.1p9 didnt help me

Same here. Infact, it made things far worse for my server so I went back to the metamod.org released 1.17.1 version.

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Aug 7 2004, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE (Gruuunt @ Aug 6 2004, 08:48 AM)

Will be interested to see a confirmation that it was the special metamod version that fixed it Catfish.

Unfortunately metamod 1.17.1p9 didn't solve the problem from my end, either (sorry Gruuunt). NS still locks up when the latest beta HPB_bot.dll is used with WhichBot (v 0.93). It's almost always when both sets of bots are loading at the beginning of a map. On the few occasions that I survive this period, HL will often freeze, seemingly when many bots are simultaneously respawning ? although on one occasion I managed to go about an hour with no dramas, before quitting myself. As I stated in my last post, if I use either of these bots independently of one another they run fine. I don't have these problems with WhichBot + the last official release of RCBot.

For the record, I'm running NS 3.0 beta 4a without Steam(ing turd), on a listen server with no other metamod plugins.

Wildfire	Aug 7 2004, 11:40 PM Post #35
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	Was looking around at some stuff, found this: Application Errors hlds.exe c0000005 hpb_bot!Meta_Attach(0735CE46) not sure if it helps though, but who knows? (I dont )

Cheeseh	Aug 8 2004, 12:29 AM Post #36
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 3,066 Joined: 11-September 03 From: uk Member No.: 1	could be a version error. of course I can't check since there is no source I can find for that metamod 1.17.1p9 version.

Lumpy	Aug 8 2004, 03:06 PM Post #37
Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 23-September 03 Member No.: 31	The source would be the third download link of the first forum post of that thread.

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Aug 8 2004, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE (Cheeseh @ Aug 8 2004, 12:29 AM)

could be a version error. of course I can't check since there is no source I can find for that metamod 1.17.1p9 version.

Its not for the 1p9, I went back to 1.17.1 again since 1p9 didnt seem to be any better.

EDIT:
Maybe its not just WhichBot that keeps crashing RCBot. I recently installed AMXmod so I could get some nice plugins to work, and the server crashes in the same way it would if WhichBot was running. Maybe all this crashing has something to do with MetaMod plugins in general, or specific plugins arent compatible with RCBot or something.

Wildfire	Aug 13 2004, 02:27 AM Post #39
Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 362	Yup, its crashing the same with AMX mod, except not as much and more randomly. We were having a big game on one of my favorite classic custom maps and the server crashed just as it was getting good

Sandman[SA]	Aug 13 2004, 07:16 AM Post #40
RCBot Waypointer Group: Moderator Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 19	I found the problem to be just whichbot. Seems whichbot v0.92e to 0.93b for win32 somehow caught the crash bug. And whichbot v0.93 to v0.93b for linux is bugged as well. Clamatius is currently working on the problem. Hopefully he will nip this in the bud quickly. Anyone who could offer him some assistance debugging it, i'm sure it would be appreciated.

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